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Mau7rice
Mau7rice
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January 11, 2017
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How do I burn to a Double-sided disc ?

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I've done all my editing in Premiere, I've exported all necessary MPEG-2s, created the DVD Menu, timelines and buttons, even edited the menu some in Photoshop. Now I'm ready to build/burn; my project is too big for a regular 4.7G disc, so I have a stack of double-sided discs. The only-thing I'm not sure about is how do I tell Encore to write to the other side of the disc after it's exhausted the first side ? Do I physically have to flip it ? Cause Encore is telling me the disc is full. Is there a checkbox, a  button, a menu option I'm missing ? The project looks good, the check finds no problems; can someone inform and explain how do I burn a double sided disc so that it writes and plays correctly ?

I'm already breaking my project up into multi disc since it was quite big; and my second burn will contain more than the first. Anyways please enlighten this DVD novice.

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Correct answer neil wilkes

Are you on a Mac or a PC?

If on a PC, then I cannot recommend highly enough the combination of IMGBurn and Verbatim "Advanced Metal Azo" DVD+R DL blanks - avoid at all costs using DVD-R DL as it is not possible to set a manual layer break in -R DL discs and the break point will be automatically set to the middle of your data. With +R DL, you can set this manually.

How to do this?

If you are not replicating (which is a different animal requiring different tools) then this is now as easy as pie if you follow these rules:

1 - Do not attempt to set the layer break in Encore (you cannot do this until you have compiled the disc anyway)

2 - Output from Encore to a DVD Folder (it should create a Video_TS folder for you), making sure that you have added chapter markers in the main footage because these will be used to determine your layer break if it cannot be placed between timelines/playlists.

3 - Launch IMGBurn.

4 - (first run only) Open the settings and make sure the following options are set:

A - Build, Page 1 - File splitting Auto. Page 2 - Create Audio_TS folder (some players still require this even though it will usually be empty), under "DVD Video" check every box. IFO/BUP padding is critical. Most of the rest can be left as default, although personally I set the buffers to be quite large.

5 - In "EZ-Picker" mode, select either "write files/folders to disc" or if you want an ISO image, select "create image from files/folders".

6 - Point to your newly created "Video_TS" folder from Encore, fill in the ISO & UDF data fields, set the output location if making an image and hit the GO button.

IMGburn will then parse your folder and ask you to select your layer break from a list of all the possible spec legal places it has found. These can be previewed, and the ideal place is on one with a green star (between timelines). If necessary you can use a chapter marker location - preview here is highly recommended - and this will be set for you and the disc will be cooked.

Setting the break point used to be a nightmare - and for replication can still be aggravating - but for burned discs it is simples as long as you use DVD+R DL.

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neil wilkes
neil wilkesCorrect answer
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January 11, 2017

Are you on a Mac or a PC?

If on a PC, then I cannot recommend highly enough the combination of IMGBurn and Verbatim "Advanced Metal Azo" DVD+R DL blanks - avoid at all costs using DVD-R DL as it is not possible to set a manual layer break in -R DL discs and the break point will be automatically set to the middle of your data. With +R DL, you can set this manually.

How to do this?

If you are not replicating (which is a different animal requiring different tools) then this is now as easy as pie if you follow these rules:

1 - Do not attempt to set the layer break in Encore (you cannot do this until you have compiled the disc anyway)

2 - Output from Encore to a DVD Folder (it should create a Video_TS folder for you), making sure that you have added chapter markers in the main footage because these will be used to determine your layer break if it cannot be placed between timelines/playlists.

3 - Launch IMGBurn.

4 - (first run only) Open the settings and make sure the following options are set:

A - Build, Page 1 - File splitting Auto. Page 2 - Create Audio_TS folder (some players still require this even though it will usually be empty), under "DVD Video" check every box. IFO/BUP padding is critical. Most of the rest can be left as default, although personally I set the buffers to be quite large.

5 - In "EZ-Picker" mode, select either "write files/folders to disc" or if you want an ISO image, select "create image from files/folders".

6 - Point to your newly created "Video_TS" folder from Encore, fill in the ISO & UDF data fields, set the output location if making an image and hit the GO button.

IMGburn will then parse your folder and ask you to select your layer break from a list of all the possible spec legal places it has found. These can be previewed, and the ideal place is on one with a green star (between timelines). If necessary you can use a chapter marker location - preview here is highly recommended - and this will be set for you and the disc will be cooked.

Setting the break point used to be a nightmare - and for replication can still be aggravating - but for burned discs it is simples as long as you use DVD+R DL.

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Richard M KnightCommunity Expert
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January 11, 2017

The Op referred to double sided, as Neil assumed, I expect he meant dual layer.

On thing in addition to Neil's answer when exporting from Encore as a dvd folder I tell it, it is a single layer disc but with the size of a dual layer 8.4 Gb. I find this stops Encore form producing layer break indexes even though ImgBurn will do the final disc production.

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January 16, 2017

I shot a 3-day event, had to work the first day, but was available day 2 and day 3 of the event, the kind of event I'm talking about is a church event or service. Average church service is 1 and a half sometimes 2hours plus. I'm not looking at the exact time lengths right now, but I would say I have at least 2 hours that I shot each day. Edited down, it's likely more around 1 hour 40 minutes for each day; over 3 hours worth that I'm trying to burn and deliver via DVD.

This particular problem I posted about I later realized I needed Dual-Layer discs and not double-sided. But I did spend a lot of time researching how to compress my video in order to fit more on the disc at a good or decent quality. What I didn't find a solution or good solution to was how to compress my video files in order to fit more onto the disc. I'm open to to any wisdom you can share about these issues and in general editing, creating, and burning for DVD.


A general rule-of-thumb method of figuring DVD bitrate, which I actually got from Adobe years ago, is 560/minutes = bitrate. For 2 hours, that would be 560/120 = 4.66 (I usually round down a little for safety margin for menu overhead, such as 4.5 then). There are online calculators as well, but you have to be careful setting them up, one simple error then the whole formula goes out of whack. Assuming Dolby AC3 audio with this formula, PCM would take a LOT more space.

DVD-HQ : Bitrate & GOP calculator

For anything under 1 hour, no formula needed, just max it out around 8.

You probably would not want to force 3 hours onto one 4.7GB disc, would not look very good, so in that case the dual-layer looks like the better option.

When encoding longer videos, VBR 2-Pass encoding is going to help maximize quality.

Thanks

Jeff

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