Here we are in 2024 and still nothing remotely close, to what this thread has been talking about, has been implemented into Premiere Pro.

ALSO now that I have used After Effects, the way you can bind the properties of a track to any number of other tracks, would to me, be the simplest solution and a super helpful one.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Just a bit of information ... AfterEffects layers in a comp, are not at all in any way equivalent to tracks in Premiere.

They are the exact same as the layers in the Essential Graphics panel, or ... the user-added effects in the Effects Control Panel.

Although the pic-whip tool is an awesome thing in Ae ...

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Final Protective Fire

Participant

That makes sense, I won't claim to know what the back end of Ae or Pr BUT I know I'm not the only one trying to do nest/adjustment layer inception, and having a function that would allow for targeted adjustment layers, would make a lot of peoples lives easier and has been complained about for over 10 years in this thread alone.

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abhishek29305255kzwi

Participant

just nest the adjust ment layer to the clips you want it to affect.

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RebelSires

Participant

Just nest the adjustment layer and the track you want to apply the adjustment layer together and then place it where you want above or below. Hope it helped!

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TobiasAM

Participating Frequently

Not a good workaround in a lot of cases.

For example if you use 2 different cameras in a video, and have all the clips from cam 1 at layer 1 with an adjustement layer with LOG lut and some basic adjustmenets on layer 2, and cam 2 on layer 3. Here I would want the option to have an adjustement layer on layer 4, which only affects cam 2 on layer 3, so that when there is no clip on layer 3 and the underlying layer 1 is showing - the adjustment layer doesn't affect the clips on layer 1.

In this case you have 2 alternatives: Chop the adjustment layer up so that it is only on top of the parts where cam 2 is used, or nest the cam 2 clips and do the way you suggested.

If you chop up your adjustment layer, you will have to copy paste the changes done to all the different adjustment clips, everytime you make a change.

If you were to nest all the shots on layer 3 to get the grade to affect all the clips, you lose your ability to adjust the edit which might be synced with music in the main sequence, and you will have to jump in and out of the nested sequence which makes the whole workflow tedious.

In cases like these it would be hugely beneficial to just right click on adjustment layer -> affect only layer underneath, or something similar! 🙂

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Very good comment and analysis.

I've gotten frustrated enough with AL use that I avoid them when possible, and use "Source Effects" whenever I can.

The advantage of using Source tab is that the work is applied to all other instances of any section of the full clip in that or any other sequence. Which is often a good way to quickly get all X clips so they mesh with Y clips.

The problem with Source effects of course is that the work is applied to all other instances of any section of the full clip in that or any other sequence. Which is not always what one wants, especially on other sequences in the project.

I've been pushing for getting an Ae-style pic-whip sorta capability within Lumetri for instance, so you could take an input from after say even before or after Basic tab for HSL, rather than from after the other tabs have been applied.

It would be near the equivalent of a parallel node or at least grabing a node input from another node out of node based apps.

But I have also asked that be applied to ALs ... one can always dream, right?

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Turing5C6B

Participant

How is it still not in Premiere.. 😪

"Photoshop like" adjustment layers that affect only the track beneath it are so much needed...

Please upvote the request : https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/43652106-adding-effects-directly-to-video-layers-audio-tra

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TobiasAM

Participating Frequently

And here we are 8 years later and still no option to either make an adjustement layer only affect the track beneath it, or be able to add effects directly to a track like the "audio track mixer" just for video.

I made a feature request which has received zero engagement, if anyone want to support it I would be grateful!

https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911233-premiere-pro/suggestions/43652106-adding-effects-directly-to-video-layers-audio-tra

R Neil Haugen

Legend

I upvoted your suggestion, there are times this would be useful.

There is currently a quick & easy process to handle the part of your multi-cam suggestion. Simply apply the Lumetri correction to the Source tab of any clip of X camera. It will immediately be applied to ALL segments of that clip in any sequence in that project.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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TobiasAM

Participating Frequently

Thank you, and thank you for your suggestion.

It is still troublesome if you have 3 different cameras recording a lot of clips during a long day on set, since I often change the grade multiple times and have to re-apply them to all clips.

What I do now is either:

1. First sync all cameras to timecode/sound, nest all clips from each camera accordingly and apply grade to the nested sequences, then nest again to create a multicam sequence where I change between the different cameras with the number keys.

2. Have the main camera on track 1 with adjustement layer on track 2, and other cameras on track 3 and 4. Then select every clip from each camera and paste grade accordingly. If I need to redo the grade I can select all clips and right click ---> Remove attributes, then paste the new grade on all the clips again.

Would be a lot easier to just apply a grade on track 1, 2 and 3 respectively.

Another example of where it would be useful is if I want to use the transform effect to move a bunch of clips allow graphic to be visible on the side.

As it is now I would have to nest all the clips that are to be moved, then use transform on the nested sequence, because if I apply it to an adjustement layer all the graphic underneath will also be moved with the clips above. This limits the ability to redo the edit in context, instead of being able to simply add an adjustement layer and make it only affect the track beneath.

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arricg6362772

Participant

The easiestway I found was to Nest the Adjustment Layer and the clip itself.

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Alterius Omega

Inspiring

Any tracks that are above the track that the adjustment layer is on will not be affected. So, you just need to rearrange the vertical order of your video tracks.

To do this, make a few empty video tracks, then use the track select tool and copy/paste the tracks in the proper vertical order. You want the track with the adjustment layer to be above only the tracks with the clips that you want to be affected by it. For all the clips that you don't want affected, make sure that their tracks are above the adjustment layer track.

Thanks,

Alterius

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Canceling Account etc.

Participant

The nesting seems to be the best option, however, I tend to avoid nesting because of the limitations. The best option would probably being able to pair of lock layers together. Like an option to pin to a layer. AE has a similar option with the null layer option.

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