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aTomician
aTomician
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April 12, 2018
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Add the ability to keyframe an imported After Effects MOGRT

  • April 12, 2018
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It would be extremely useful to be able to keyframe the controls in Premiere Pro for a MOGRT (Motion Graphic Template) created in After FX. I create a template in AFX, add it to CC libraries, I can import this into Premiere and adjust the controls, but I can't keyframe them. This would take the power of MOGRT's to a whole new level.

I have extensively documented the process I'm trying to do here: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/255599

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    Ryan978
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    January 24, 2023
    Yes please! We need keyframes so bad!
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    January 24, 2023
    This would be incredibly useful in our use case where I want to create templates in After Effects and set parameters for a list of bullet points that come on screen in time with a presenter (in a presentation style).

    Although I know this can now be created in Premeire with the basic transform options, I have created a template where I have linked an animated element to a slider, which would be amazing to keyframe within Premiere and would save a ton of time.
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    RJM12
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    January 24, 2023
    This would be fantastic
    Franck Payen
    Franck Payen
    Inspiring
    January 24, 2023
    Another thing that I miss when importing mogrt from Ae is the ability to see/visualize the responsive time frozen zones, so that I know if I have enough space around and can reserve a "reading time".
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    FeedbackCommunityMember
    Inspiring
    January 24, 2023
    Good one. Thanks for making the request!
    aTomician
    aTomicianAuthor
    Inspiring
    January 24, 2023
    Sorry the link I posted is slightly incorrect. It should be: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2555991
    Regards, aTomician
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    videowizard.io
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    January 20, 2023

    MOGRTs are a great way to bridge After Effects and Premiere. Yet while keyframing is fundamental to *both* AE and Pr, MOGRTs on the Pr side have no way of being keyframed. 

     

    The idea is simple: add basic keyframe support to MOGRTs.

     

    Slider control, point control, and checkbox control are the most obvious, but there may be other applicable contexts for keyframes as well. 

     

     

     

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      seeyo76
      Inspiring
      September 15, 2020

      Hi guys, seems like when I create a template in after effects and then open it with essential graphics in premiere pro, I can't animate the parameters, on any of them.

      Any solution on that ?

       

      Cheers

        R Neil Haugen
        R Neil Haugen
        Legend
        September 15, 2020

        I take it you moved the parameters you wanted to change into the EGP box for doing so? As only the items you set to be changeable within Premiere will be so.

         

        Neil

        Everyone's mileage always varies ...
        JM2017
        JM2017
        Inspiring
        August 18, 2021

        I created a simple MOGRT from within PP; say a text with simple fade in/out plus 2 position keyframes.

        is there a way to make those keyframes adjust dynamically when this MOGRT was extended or shrinked?

        (like or similar to the protected area in AE)

         

        Thank you

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          ah.photo
          Inspiring
          August 18, 2021

          There is, but you'll need to do so when making the MOGRT.

           

          It's called Responsive Design (Time)! When you view the root level of your graphic in the Essential Graphcs panel (no layers selected), look for the Intro and Outro durations you can set.

           

          Once set, those ranges will be protected ranges of which the contents and keyframes inside will not be altered when shorterning or lengthening future uses of the clip (you'll see these highlighted in Effects Controls once set). Anything outside of those protected ranges, I believe will adjust to the duration of the clip.

           

          Just like an AE-made MOGRT, you can put your in/out animations in those protected ranges, and then anything else in the middle will retime per the intanced duration.

            JM2017
            JM2017
            Inspiring
            August 18, 2021

            tyvm ah.photo i'll try it out

            the curve vfx
            the curve vfx
            Participant
            September 3, 2020

            Hi,

            I built some mogrt-files in AE and brought them over to Premiere. No problem here. I see all the parameters I exposed in AE and can change those values....BUT...is there any way I can animate those parameters (keyframe in Premiere)?

             

            Thanx for any help

              aTomician
              aTomicianAuthor
              Inspiring
              November 2, 2018

              I've got a bunch of motion graphics templates I've coded up in AE, I really really want to find a way to keyframe these in Premiere.

              Is there any methods, any workarounds, any way at all of doing this?

              It would be very useful for me - for instance I have a feature picker that draws a line from 2 points - from a feature on a product video to text, to highlight what the text is referring to.  This has a minor animation when entering, plus a couple of other options that would make it very time consuming to create entirely in Premiere.  I have this nicely coded up in AE and I can simply keyframe the two points and everything else links up for me.  However it does mean that I have to export a precomp from Premiere into AE via media encoder, animate the line and add the text, and then export it out and back into Premiere.  This also means that if I have to edit the text, it means repeating the process.

              Trying to keep my workflow simple, I'd love to be able to add text and keyframe the two points in the mogrt directly in Premiere.  Is there a way?

              Regards, aTomician
                R Neil Haugen
                R Neil Haugen
                Legend
                November 2, 2018

                When you make a mogrt in Ae, you need to include most anything you'd want the editor to be able to control in the EGP within Ae. This particular question ... has me puzzled. I don't think I've tried this, and I'm at home on my laptop, not at the studio on my editing rig.

                For general info, Jarle Leirpoll ... one of the "pioneers" of mogrts before they were an acknowledged "thing", just released a book on making mogrt's in Ae. Adobe, while reviewing it for accuracy, liked it so much they acquired it and it is now linked from their site ...

                Leirpoll ebook, Making Mogrts: https://adobe.ly/makemogrts

                Neil

                (Btw ... I was the proof-reader for the book ... )

                Everyone's mileage always varies ...
                  aTomician
                  aTomicianAuthor
                  Inspiring
                  November 2, 2018

                  Thanks for the reply Neil.  I'm not hundred per cent sure I've got what you're saying but I'll try to clarify - I've got a mogrt template in AE, added the relevant controls to EGP, i've exported the graphic as a mogrt through creative cloud, and I can drag it into a premier project from CC libraries.  I can edit the mogrt using the controls in EGP exactly how I want - but I can't change the controls over time using keyframes in premiere because there no option to.  And that's what I want to do. 

                  The reason behind this is it often requires a lot of tweaking to get it right and to go into as every time I want to make a small change is quite time consuming.  I didn't know if it was possible to keyframe directly in premiere to give me an easier editing workflow.

                  I will have a read through the guide you sent, and see if I can find an easier way to work.  I can add some screenshots next time I'm at my computer if you think that would help explain what I'm trying to do.

                  Regards, aTomician
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