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June 30, 2013
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Premiere CC extremely slow on export

  • June 30, 2013
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I just started testing the new premiere CC as a replacement for the Pro5.5.

Most of my clips are AVCHD from the dreadful Panasonic 130 / 160 cams.

Although the new premiere works well as far as handling these clips (surely better then CS6 with the BUG) , when I try to export to mpg2 DVD … well …. Trees grow faster.

 

For some reason the premiere cs5.5 does it faster, way faster than the CC.

The CUDA engine is active in both cases, but has no visible effect on speed.

The computer I am using has the I7 6 cores dual threads, 32 GB memory, SSD for system disk and GTX570 for GPU…  SO WHY?

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    Participant
    April 6, 2017

    My issue was hyperthreading. My desktop is an i5 3570k but doesnt have hyperthreading. It was using 90%+ cpu usage almost nonstop while encoding. I have 2 core i7 laptops that were only using 19% CPU and taking 41 hours to render the same video my desktop was doing in 9 hours. I could not disable hyperthreading in the bios on the laptops. I have 2 friends that have 6 core intel CPUs with hyperthreading. I tried rendering on their desktops and had the same issue with cpu usage being below 20%. I then disabled hyperthreading and got the cpu usage to 80%+ nonstop. I was using Premiere Pro CC 2015 to do all of these tests. Before figuring out the issue I tried using CC 2017 as well as adobe media encoder and I still had the 19% cpu usage issue. Disabling hyperthreading fixed the problem for me.

    romainbh
    Participant
    May 16, 2015

    Hi everyone,

    I've noticed that exporting a sequence that uses the "Lens distortion" effect takes a long long time. I don't know why, but in this case PPro CC uses neither CPU, GPU, RAM and disk bitrate at full capacity. Same sequence without this effect is exported in a normal time and uses full capacity of at least one of the components of my PC.

    So, unfortunately I'm forced to export my GoPro videos without removing the fisheye effect

    I hope it can help you.

    And thank you Adobe to solve this problem

    PS. Please excuse my poor english

    Participant
    May 5, 2015

    If all else is failing you, I saw vast improvement after I closed the adobe cloud licensing app.

    Radiant_intelligence98A2
    Participating Frequently
    May 5, 2015

    Silentbob20059 wrote:

    If all else is failing you, I saw vast improvement after I closed the adobe cloud licensing app.

    Is this the CC Desktop app or something else?  How do I do this? Is it legal?

    Participant
    May 5, 2015

    It's called "Adobe Application Manager" but will say "Creative Cloud" at the top of the window.

    For MAC: Click on the Adobe Creative Cloud logo on the grey bar at the top of the screen.

    Then click the gear in the top right of the "Creative Cloud" window and choose "quit" from the menu.

    Your Adobe apps will continue to run just fine (hopefully a little faster).

    You might need to reopen the app app manager so Adobe can check in every few days to make sure you're not a pirate.

    Yes it is completely legal and is within the normal functionality and expected use of the software.

    Radiant_intelligence98A2
    Participating Frequently
    April 16, 2015

    Hi everyone,

    Rig: Custom

    Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 @ 3.5Ghz
    16 GB Ram

    NVidia Quadro K4000

    2 - 256GB SSD  - one for OS/Programs - other for files

    I'm trying to export a video that is 7 min long. 1280x720, 23.976fps, Progressive, VBR 1Pass, Target at ONLY 0.65 Mbps, AAC audio, 128kbps, 44kHz, Mono.

    I'm at 33% after an hour.  This is the 6th time I've rendered using different methods (disabling Mercury, using software only, and different combinations of the sort.  Would my company have done better to buy me a cheep little Surface Pro instead of the overpriced rig I am currently using?  Any suggestions on what may make this faster?

    Pretty disappointed with Adobe at the moment.

    drew beynon
    Participant
    August 8, 2014

    What I have:

    -I have a brand new MacPro Trash Can, completely maxed out everything.

    64GB ram | 2.7GHz 12 core Xeon E5 | OSX 10.9.3.

    -You should know I have a new MacBookPro as well, and i am not experiencing this issue on that laptop.

    My Problem:

    -Rendering out of Premiere CC is taking for ever just as everyone has said.

    -I changed the File>Project Settings>General Tab>Renderer - to software only, however that sped nothing up.

    -1 Pass encodes also sped nothing up.

    -I am linking project files with After Effects, but I do not think that is the issue.

    My Solution:

    For now I am jumping to Adobe Media encoder to make my MP4's, this looks like it is working faster, and is gives me a better view of where the file is in the rendering process.

    * Adobe needs to get on this issue right now, if they have not already figured it out.

    It is an extremely serious professional workflow issue.*

    phil_lid
    Participating Frequently
    February 14, 2015

    Hi Drew, Did you ever resolve the Rendering problem out of Premiere CC?  I too am having an issue with it being so slow.

    I have a trashcan like yours but finding straight out of Premiere CC 2014 is so slow.

    Can you elaborate for me as to your workflow?  Do you just add your sequence into the Encoder?

    Thanks

    Phil

    Participant
    January 30, 2014

    Like @Roni2013 said, change the renderer in the Project settings from GPU Acceleration to Software only.

    I'm running a MPB 2011 with i7 and 12gb of ram and this made all the deffrence in the world with my export speeds. it went from taking years to taking mins.

    From what I've read the GPU (mine is the AMD Radeon HD 6750M) is not fully supported, thus it's not able to take advantage of the GPU when exporting.

    Thanks @Roni2013

    Participant
    October 28, 2013

    Sorry to revive this, but i've read this and pretty much every other linked article and haven't found anything that helps.

    My gear:
    Blackmagic cinema cameras with Hyperdeck and Atem Switcher shooting ProRes at 29.97fps
    Mac Mini, 4GB ram, 2.6gHz quad core i7 running Adobe premiere CC

    My Project (church service):

    Two clips, one ~6:00 (intro video), one ~45:00 (main sermon), audio imported seprately.

    What I've been trying:

    1: Format: H.264

    Preset: Vimeo HD 1080p 29.97fps

    Not using max render quality, not using previews, not using frame blending, not importing into project.

    Directly exporting from Premiere.
    No presets changed, no filters added.

    Export time: 1:05:45

    2: Format: Quicktime

    Preset: HD 1080i 29.97 H.264

    Not using max render quality, not using previews, not using frame blending, not importing into project.

    Directly exporting from Premiere.
    No presets changed, no filters added.

    Export time: 1:30:10

    Maybe my machine is just not enough, but it indicates the main stress is on the cpu as only about 25% of RAM is being used by any Premiere related processes during export, while 500-700% of cpu is being juiced.

    Bottom line, we need this to happen faster, and for the simplicity of what we're doing (splicing a still graphic on the front of an intro video, which is spliced onto the front of the sermon) the time its taking seems kinda crazy to me. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

    P.S.

    Went to disable GPU rendering, but the only option I have is Software rendering so that's not the issue (I assume).

    joshweiland
    Known Participant
    October 28, 2013

    In your case, I'm pretty sure your hardware is not up to it.

    It looks like the Mac Mini uses integrated Intel HD GPUs.  You won't have GPU acceleration in PPro because of this.

    ProRes is a high-bitrate format.  What is your disk setup?  System drive, media drive, and output drive config?

    Regarding RAM, 4GB is a possible bottleneck.  PPro realizes that you only have 4GB total, and therefore will limit the amount it uses.  You can change this in Preferences, Memory & Multi-Processing, to use more of your available RAM.  If you're able to add another stick of RAM, it'd likely be beneficial.

    Participant
    October 28, 2013

    -System is running on a 7200rpm 1TB HDD

    -Project source files are on a 512MB m4 SSD connected via USB3.0.

    I have my preferences set up so that PP can use up to 2.5GB of the total ram, max uses is 1.5GB during export.

    I was thinking it may be a CPU bottleneck, but I checked the benchmarks and the i7 in the mini scores over 8k which is dang near the top, in fact, the only thing that scores higher for a single chip system is the imac with the i7-4771 (that is until december when the new pro drops). So maybe it's good, but just not right for video? The pieces just don't seem to fit... Thoughts?

    Participating Frequently
    August 2, 2013

    Do you have titles in your sequence?  I noticed when I create a new sequence, drop a video file in and DON'T add any titles, it encodes fast.  When I add titles, it takes about 2 times the actual length of the clip to render.  CS6 did not have this problem.

    Legend
    August 2, 2013

    What you're seeing is probably the results of this:

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/5562273#5562273

    Roni2013Author
    Participant
    July 4, 2013

    Well - as for my original problem -

    I’ve made some testing and for now had no real progress as far as normal exporting.

    1 .The mercury GPU is working on all testing

    1. 2. For a 75 minutes of Panasonic MTS with very basic transitions - exporting to AVI DV PAL wide and to MPEG2-DVD Pal - more the 3 hours

    1. 3. Tried same footage with maximum render quality - same results.

    1. 4. Tried with use previews - same results.  (The project has the yellow line; I did not try to render into green)

    1. 5. In some cases, when trying to export to other formats, I received “error compiling movie” this seems to be related to the maximum render quality switch - I have a feeling that this has something to do with the GPU acceleration.

    Now as I write this message – I am trying something new:

    I marked the “match sequence settings” on the top of the export windows” this yielded a “new” exporting format name “mpeg preview” that has same frame size ,frame rate and field order as the original footage”

    It worked fast and was ready in about 20 minutes or so.

    Using the AME to convert this to mpeg2 DVD also was fast.

    The only question – what will be the final quality when burning DVD?!

    I can’t answer that now since I have a burner problem and only tomorrow I will be able to replace it and gaze on the results of this experiment.

    I will, of course, update as soon as I can.

    I do hope someone (adobe guys?!) will do something about solving these frustrating issue.

    Legend
    July 4, 2013

    For starters, CC7 no longer uses hardware acceleration when you export through AME.  For another, Adobe has added a new MPEG encoder, or revamped it somehow, and going Direct is now significantly faster than going through AME, even without accelerated effects.  It'll be even faster still with them as Direct will use GPU acceleration.

    So again I say, try a direct Export, instead of hitting Queue.

    Roni2013Author
    Participant
    July 6, 2013

    tried both ways - direct export and AME export - both the same.

    BUT - I HAVE SOME NEWS!!!!

    I just find out that when I shut down the GPU acceleration (software mode) - exports become fast - and I mean really fast (at least on my computer with its I7 - 6 cores dual threads and 32GB memory) - now it is faster than ever before.

    Can someone do the same test and see if it is only me or it’s a premiere bug?!

    BTW my GPU is GTX570 so it should have done the job well…

    Participating Frequently
    July 3, 2013

    Yes, I am also experiencing this problem. I tried changing the Render engine between GPU acceleration and software rendering.

    Very strange bug.

    Everything else works great in Premiere CC versus CS 6. However, when it comes time to Render or Export, it is noticeably taking much longer. I am guessing it must be a bug, considering how much faster playback and operation seems.

    I have a 1 GB ATI Radeon Card, with 17 GB of RAM, on an 8 core Mac Pro, so I really shouldn't be seeing such a slow down here.

    Participating Frequently
    July 3, 2013

    Or use my method here which has helped many avoid the the slow export bug:

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1039888

    I 've had recent issues with Premiere not finding specific preview files and have explained, in that link, what to do to get around it quicker.

    Participating Frequently
    July 3, 2013

    Thing is... I was not getting as slow of an export in CS6. It was quite normal, at the very least a bit faster than FCP 7. Would usually take about 15 minutes per video. Our videos average 5 minutes in length, 1080p.

    FYI... I am exporting to 1080p H.264, using the YouTube preset.

    The slow-down is a new issue to my workflow, specifically in CC.

    Re-importing the preview files, seems to me, like it will take a bit of a drop in quality, no? I would like to preserve the highest quality from the source footage, as we tend to archive our exports and sometimes delete the footage after the newsworthiness has dissipated.

    I am going to try reset to default settings, as my adjustments to enable GPU processing actually did not fix anything. It improved render times, but was still slow on exports, if not slower. Enabling GPU processing also literally brought my system to halt during the export stage. Any background task, like browsing the web, etc. would be seriously lagging.