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June 13, 2017
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Premiere, Color Management and Rec709 to sRGB

  • June 13, 2017
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Hi all!

After some extensive poking around on quite a few forums I'm still at a bit of a loss over this topic. My understanding is that Premiere (2017) displays and encodes all content (even through Encoder) in Rec709. My basic level question is there is really no way, through Premiere or Encoder to create an sRGB file? With most of us sending to web at least half of our deliverables I find it odd that there is no standardized way to tackle this? I might just be missing something so forgive me! I know Rec709 is close in theory with really only the gamma being different but I've had two clients now complain about contrast and I'm having to over compensate in Premiere to get the proper contrast (gamma) playing through on the web relative to what I'm seeing on my screens. My hope is to get a little discussion together and see what people are doing, and what Adobe might recommend. Thanks!

-Bri

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Legend
June 14, 2017

Just to throw another viewpoint into the mix, I do all my YouTube viewing on a calibrated plasma from a Fire TV.

Just because it's delivered via streaming, doesn't mean it won't be viewed in a proper environment.

Kevin J. Monahan Jr.
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Community Manager
June 14, 2017

Hi Brian,

After some extensive poking around on quite a few forums I'm still at a bit of a loss over this topic. My understanding is that Premiere (2017) displays and encodes all content (even through Encoder) in Rec709.

Yes.

My basic level question is there is really no way, through Premiere or Encoder to create an sRGB file?

Not that I know of.

With most of us sending to web at least half of our deliverables I find it odd that there is no standardized way to tackle this?

Create a feature request here.

I know Rec709 is close in theory with really only the gamma being different but I've had two clients now complain about contrast and I'm having to over compensate in Premiere to get the proper contrast (gamma) playing through on the web relative to what I'm seeing on my screens.

You see this issue with most current NLE software. Sorry.

I'm having to over compensate in Premiere to get the proper contrast (gamma) playing through on the web relative to what I'm seeing on my screens.

Perhaps a LUT can solve this issue. I have also heard of setting up your monitoring to reflect sRGB, doing your corrections and delivering that way.

It seems the only way to maintain correct black levels/gamma/color on the web is to export ProRes or similar video flavor, and then use a third party encoder to export to h.264 sRGB for correct viewing.

Yes, I've heard of that, as well. Export a master, then encode in either Handbrake or MPEG Streamclip. See if that might work for you.

Thanks,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
R Neil Haugen
Legend
June 14, 2017

Given the number of posts we've been dealing with lately on the whole content for the web issue, it might be nice to create a suggestion or workflow list of methods that work for certain situations.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
June 14, 2017

I agree, I've read a lot of differing workflows for this. There's never a way to know for sure how the end user is going to see your content, but at least getting it to another color space, or the most common one on the web would be super useful!

Participating Frequently
June 13, 2017

To further elaborate, it seems the only way to maintain correct black levels/gamma/color on the web is to export ProRes or similar video flavor, and then use a third party encoder to export to h.264 sRGB for correct viewing.