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What is the new replacement codec for quicktime h.264

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April 5, 2018
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What is the new replacement codec for h.264 since adobe officially removed it. When you go to export -> quicktime -> codec h.264 is removed. Does anyone have a replacement codec to use. (STILL UNDER QUICK TIME) i do not want a quality loss going over to mp4.

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Correct answer SteveHoeg

That’s correct, select h.264 as the top level export format and it will be a QuickTime compatible file. The mp4 spec as based on mov.

LearnDev

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Has anyone found a replacement codec for QuickTime files that are transparent (alpha channel)? I have 120 instances of a transparent QuickTime file in After Effects and I'm not sure what format replaces it. Help!

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excited_Genie16B8

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Cineform allows for transparency.

DNx in the preferable MXF wrapper does as well.

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Thank you Jim. Do you know of a converter that can take a QuickTime file and export it as a Cineform or DNx file?

Slandau-wBXkI8

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Unfortunately H.264 .mp4 is not a viable solution for me. I work with vendors that require captions and for some reason I have had issues with the .mp4 wrapper where timecode does not carry to the file.

I still need an H.264 alternative within the .mov wrapper, capable of delivering smaller file sizes and not stripping timecode. Are there any suggestions?

GCIGraphicsAuthor

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Yes i still have not found the h.264 quicktime .mov file we both want. the only way to to that is to downgrade. which sucks if you work with other people or have opened files in the new versions. they (adobe) have not fixed or addressed a better work around. but please report back if you find a solution.

GCIGraphicsAuthor

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What it seems that i have learned is that there is no tru replacement for the codec adobe just removed. I will install a old version on another machine and export on it when needed. and for everyhting else ill just use .mp4 with the biterate cranked up to the max!

Thanks for all the feedback! Ill just hope they bring that codec back!

Roland Kahlenberg

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Your filesizes being different is very likely due to different compression settings. If you want your H264 (MP4) to look much like the quality you have on your timeline, then choose CBR (constant bitrate) with a bitrate setting of between 25-35 MBps. For a more forgiving pair of eyes, 15MBps is a good target.

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GCIGraphicsAuthor

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THIS GUY GETS IT! mp4 naturaly compresses too much for me from the general presets. So i asked for an alternatove to my old .mov file that adobe just removed.

this guy helped me to get way more information and quality out of a h.264 mp4

i need the highest quality mp4s

so thanks

GCIGraphicsAuthor

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If i am wrong about .mp4's Please guide me through the propper export that is quality lostless and still a .mp4

Thanks

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excited_Genie16B8

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MP4 won't be lossless. But neither is an MOV file using H.264 codec. It fact at the same bitrate, an MP4 and an MOV would be identical. The only difference is the format, with MP4 being far more common.

If you want H.264, choose H.264 under the Format, and Match Source - Adaptive High Bitrate under the Preset. This will be an excellent quality deliverable.

If you want lossless for further editing or effects work, you can choose QuickTime as the Format and Animation under Video Codec. You can also choose Uncompressed or None as the Video Codec for both QuickTime and AVI formats.

Lossless might be overkill, though. Cineform, DNx and ProRes are not technically lossless, but they are very good for continued editing and effects work.

GCIGraphicsAuthor

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Thanks ill give animation a try.

If you choose h.264 as your format the select any of there presets. My final video export size was 70mb if i chose match source and not chose a preset the file size drops to 50mb. why do i want a file compressed that low? Im not doing this to save on my phone or for youtube. Im doing this for big screens and displays all around my company so we dont want a compressd .mp4 i want my crisp .mov h.264 file

when i export with quicktime. I see great quality improvement and the files were not crompress down to 70mb. it saved at 1.7gb leaving me with way more information than the .mp4

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modilefalck

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There is no difference in quality between mp4 and QuickTime H.264. Its the same codec, in a different container. There are valid reasons for wanting a .mov container, but image quality isn‘t one of them.

SteveHoegCorrect answer

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That’s correct, select h.264 as the top level export format and it will be a QuickTime compatible file. The mp4 spec as based on mov.

GCIGraphicsAuthor

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i dont need quick time compatable and a lower res file. I need a uncompress format. MP4 is compressed. the quicktime h.264 was so much cleaner. or i would just use the lower res file mp4

R Neil Haugen

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You could try QuickTime with the Cineform YUV 10 bit preset, then leave it there or go down below to the Video tab and select the DNxHD/R flavor you'd prefer.

May not be your preferred choice, but you'd still get the QT mov file format.

Neil

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