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What Software is Better than Adobe Encore CS6 ?

Participant ,
Feb 19, 2018 Feb 19, 2018

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Since Adobe has abandoned Encore, what Blu-ray/DVD authoring software is out there that is better than Adobe Encore CS6?

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Enthusiast , Feb 25, 2018 Feb 25, 2018

There will be no more Encore CS 6 upgrades or updates.  TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 has a free trial version.  You can create DVD and Blu-ray discs.  This program has recently been updated(September 27, 2017).  I think it is possible they will upgrade the program to include authoring Ultra HD Blu-ray discs.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2018 Feb 19, 2018

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Many still use Encore.

This thread contains some suggestions:

Re: How do I author a blu ray disc from Premier Pro?

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Participant ,
Feb 19, 2018 Feb 19, 2018

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Encore is good, but I want something that is currently supported and will continue to get better over time, especially with authoring Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. Thanks for the link.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 19, 2018 Feb 19, 2018

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Since this discussion space is provided by Adobe, for Encore, I suggest doing a Google search

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Explorer ,
Jul 07, 2020 Jul 07, 2020

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Since Adobe capriciously and callously discontinued such a vital part of the workflow of  MANY PEOPLE, this is exactly the place to discuss it. The idea that I can no longer make customer menus in Photoshop and then use them to create menus within an Adobe environment is MADDENING. 

 

I have yet to find anything even remotely close unless I want to be stuck with ugly template menus from crap programs. 

 

So no. Let Adobe read these forums and be nicer to their customers. 

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Community Expert ,
Feb 20, 2018 Feb 20, 2018

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I think you'll find that the pricing for high end formats is prohibitive. Even many aspects of BD authoring are only available in high end packages.

But there is still supported software for BD. Let us know what you find.

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 20, 2018 Feb 20, 2018

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TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 does not reincode MPEG2-DVD or H.264 Blu-ray videos created in Premiere.

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Community Expert ,
Feb 23, 2018 Feb 23, 2018

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Michael+J+Titera  wrote

Ultra HD Blu-ray

I dont there is authoring software for uhd disks yet.

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Guide ,
Feb 25, 2018 Feb 25, 2018

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Ann+Bens  wrote

https://forums.adobe.com/people/Michael+J+Titera   wrote

Ultra HD Blu-ray

I dont there is authoring software for uhd disks yet.

Scenarist UHD-BD package has been around for almost a year now, Anne.

It is expensive though unless you have an old copy of DoStudio to upgrade - not sure when it expires but there was a deal to cross grade for $17,000 to Scenarist UHD.

I also wonder if Adobe would consider talking to Scenarist LLC - they bought the rights to everything back off Rovi, and not only to develop the UHD tools but Scenarist BD and Scenarist SD have also had updates and bugfixes - it is quite possible they would consider redoing the licensing to Adobe again - remember it was Rovi who killed Encore off, not Adobe or Sonic Solutions (as was)

For straight SD, Encore does work reasonably well but if an alternative is wanted people could do very well indeed with Media Chance Labs DVD-Lab Pro 2. This does things even Scenarist cannot manage and works well on Windows 7 (I do not know about W8-10)

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 25, 2018 Feb 25, 2018

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According to the Media Chance website Media Chance Labs DVD-Lab Pro 2 only works with 7, Vista or XP (32-bit or 64-bit editions).

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Participant ,
Feb 25, 2018 Feb 25, 2018

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Thanks for the information, Neil!

Do you know if Scenarist BD can author DVD, as well as Blu-ray discs?

https://www.scenarist.com/index.php/scenarist-bd-professional-blu-ray-disc-authoring/

I really wish Adobe would continue to develop Encore and also include Ultra HD Blu-ray authoring.

Cheers,

Michael

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Enthusiast ,
Feb 25, 2018 Feb 25, 2018

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There will be no more Encore CS 6 upgrades or updates.  TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 has a free trial version.  You can create DVD and Blu-ray discs.  This program has recently been updated(September 27, 2017).  I think it is possible they will upgrade the program to include authoring Ultra HD Blu-ray discs.

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Feb 25, 2018 Feb 25, 2018

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Thank you for the great information, Michael.

This looks to be the answer to Adobe Encore CS6:

TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 - The Ultimate DVD / Blu-ray / AVCHD Authoring Tool - Pegasys Inc.

It's sad that Adobe has abandoned Encore. Hopefully, TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 is superior and will continue to improve and be supported. Thanks, Michael!

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Community Expert ,
Feb 25, 2018 Feb 25, 2018

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>It's sad that Adobe has abandoned Encore

Not exactly... the owner of the core modules that Adobe used inside Encore was sold, and the new owner removed the license, so Adobe could no longer develop Encore

Adobe then (seemingly) made the decision not to recreate what had been licensed to build an Encore replacement... but since I don't work for Adobe, that part is only conjecture

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Guide ,
Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/John+T+Smith  wrote

>It's sad that Adobe has abandoned Encore

Not exactly... the owner of the core modules that Adobe used inside Encore was sold, and the new owner removed the license, so Adobe could no longer develop Encore

Adobe then (seemingly) made the decision not to recreate what had been licensed to build an Encore replacement... but since I don't work for Adobe, that part is only conjecture

Adobe could not have reverse engineered the authorcore & reworked it - not legally. One of the things that the regular bunch who all want everything from SD to UHD in one package including all necessary encoders for about $50 (and even at that price I wager serious numbers will still look for hacked versions) all tend to forget is that this is all patented & licensed technology.

Adobe's Authorcore was from Sonic Solutions, who had the rights to Daikin's original Scenarist application. Encore's core was from the at the time unused "DVD Producer" application and all Adobe did was added their own front end into the author core, which is effectively the multiplexing engine & the bit with all the hooks for the GUI to be added to - it sets the ground rules for what is & is not allowable in theory, with the local (Adobe) developers in this case deciding what sections they are prepared to give access to.

When Sonic Solutions were bought out by Rovi, Rovi diod not remove the license from Adobe, they closed down the entire Optical Disc section altogether including (after leaving a years grace) all support for Scenarist DVD & Blu-ray as well as the Sonic DVDA tools. The consumer grade stuff was flogged off to someone else (I cannot remember who offhand) but all the pro stuff was canned totally, leaving no support at all.

It was at this point Scenarist LLC ended up being created from the ashes of Sonic Solutions, and all Optical Disc types are again under development & fully supported.

Interestingly, it seems that Sony are now out of the game too - Sony Creative Software is gone. Some of the lower end stuff has been flogged off to Magix, but all the serious stuff is gone including all optical disc (not sure if Blu-Print is still going, but don't much care) stuff. No more Vegas, Soundforge, Spectral Layers/Pro, DVD Architect etc.

In closing (and I honestly do have a point) there is room for Adobe to come in hard here, and add optical disc packages to the CC package as there is next to no alternative out there at a professional grade. All there is now is Scenarist & DVD-Lab Pro 2.

I wager that Scenarist LLC will happily talk to Adobe about licensing...........and remember, they own themselves again now.

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Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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https://forums.adobe.com/people/Michael+J+Titera  wrote

Thank you for the great information, Michael.

This looks to be the answer to Adobe Encore CS6:

TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 - The Ultimate DVD / Blu-ray / AVCHD Authoring Tool - Pegasys Inc.

It's sad that Adobe has abandoned Encore. Hopefully, TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 is superior and will continue to improve and be supported. Thanks, Michael!

This is okay but heavily template based and if you need anything outside of this you are screwed. This is for home film makers with halfway decent camcorders but not professional users.

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Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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Bummer. I wish there was something out there that was comparable or better than Encore CS6 and could do both Blu-ray and DVD. Thanks for the info, Neil!

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Community Expert ,
Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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What is it you cannot do with Encore so you need better software?

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Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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I really would like the interface of Encore updated. It definitely has that clunky and out-of-date 1990's feel. In addition, I would like Encore to be able to produce 4K Ultra HD discs.

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Enthusiast ,
Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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If you have used the trial version of TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6, let us know your opinion of the software.  Who are you creating the DVD's and Blu-ray's for?  I have some 4K UHD videos that I have experimented with.  I use a converting program(Brorsoft) that converts the videos to 1920 x 1080 format.  Using Encore CS6, I create Blu-ray discs.  The quality is similar to the original 4K quality.  If your audience is the general public, they will be impressed with the quality of the videos.  I also have edited 3840 x 2160 videos in Premiere Pro CC 2018.  I uploaded them to Vimeo.   I send a link to the videos  They can be watched on a computer, tablet, etc.  They can also be downloaded and put on a flash drive.  If someone has a 4K television with USB ports they can play the videos.  If they have a 4k UHD player with a USB port, they can also play the videos.  However, there no menus.

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Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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Thanks for the response, Michael. I have not used TMPGEnc Authoring Works 6 yet. I have heard mixed reviews. The main thing it has going for it is that the company supports it and continues to improve it, unlike Adobe with Encore CS6.

I do shoot in 4K, edit in Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2018, and output to all types of media, including Blu-ray and DVD using Adobe Encore CS6. I just wished Adobe would support Encore and would improve its 1990's-era non-intuitive interface. The functionality is decent, but it would be great to see it improved, including the addition of 4K UHD.

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Enthusiast ,
Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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Based on my own opinion and what others have said on this forum, there will be no update or upgrade for Encore CS6.

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Mar 03, 2018 Mar 03, 2018

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I have been using Encore ever since version 1.0.

I dont mind the old fashioned interface.

It works with Photoshop and AE.

I dont know of any software where you can make your own custom menus or own custom motion menus (and I dont mean just the thumbnails)

And as for 4K you can put that on a flash drive and hook it up straight to your tv.

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Enthusiast ,
Mar 04, 2018 Mar 04, 2018

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According to the TMPGEnc website their program Authoring Works 6 allows you to create custom menus including motion menus.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 04, 2018 Mar 04, 2018

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I mean can you design your own buttons, make them fly around at the start of a menu?

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