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adrianaharper
adrianaharper
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March 23, 2010
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"Invisible" text in FM, but appears in RH

  • March 23, 2010
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Hi all, using TCS2 on Windows 7 64 bit.

I am linking an FM book by reference into RH. In my RH book (mostly directly below anchored frame screen shots) I seem to have some periods, bullet points, etc. (in random spots - not consistently). In FM - I can't see them to delete them. To edit in RH makes no sense since everytime I update in RH it just overrides the manual delete (reading my FM files).

Does anyone know how to get these 'hidden' pieces of formatting to show themselves in my FM books so I can take care of them at the source?

TIA,

Adriana

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Correct answer Arnis Gubins

Hi, Thanks.  I'm not 100% sure I understand how to do what Arnis is suggesting...



Hi Adriana,

What I'm suggesting is to create FM paratags that will be used to hold anchored frames and tables only, i.e. special purpose "containers". If you ever need to apply conditions, then select the paratag that contains only the anchor. This approach provides easier maintenance scenarios, gives you more control at the tops of pages (e.g. use negative spaces in the paratag space below and the table space above to move the table to the top of the text frame on new pages), provides alternate find/change/list of strategies, controlled RH mappings, etc.

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Matt-Tech Comm Tools
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Matt-Tech Comm ToolsCommunity Expert
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March 23, 2010

1-Have you looked for hidden conditional text in and around your markers?

2-Have you saved as MIF & opened in a text editor to look for clues?

-Matt

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adrianaharper
adrianaharperAuthor
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March 23, 2010

Hi Matt,

Thanks. I looked at the MIF in notepad and for conditional text references and gathered the following...

-in some cases, it seems like the image in the anchored frame seems to think it is the same paragraph tag as the text it came after. So if the image is anchored at the end of the last line of a bulleted list, it has a bullet below it. I can fix this by adding a line of body paragraph text between the image and the text above... this is not idea as it generates extra spacing but better than a random bullet point i guess!

-in some cases, it seems if i make the image conditional (insert image by reference in anchored frame, mark as conditional) it won't stay put. Other times, conditionally marked images seem to stay where they are inserted. not sure what i'm doing differently...

I'm not sure of the why behind these cases?

Matt-Tech Comm Tools
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Matt-Tech Comm ToolsCommunity Expert
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March 23, 2010

Yep, that's a bit unfortunate with the extra space...but part of designing for both print and

online simultaneously.

There's likely a CSS fix for the extra space, but I don't know the CSS to fix that one off the top of my head.

Regarding the conditional text, I just wanted to make sure the extra characters weren't hidden condit text in your FM doc. It sounds like that's not the case, so you can ignore that part...

-Matt

Matt Sullivan
director of training
roundpeg, inc.

http://blogs.roundpeg.com
http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan

-Matt Sullivan, FrameMaker Course Creator, Author, Trainer, Consultant
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