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RH10: why isn't my TOC being imported with my TOC headings

Explorer ,
Apr 21, 2011 Apr 21, 2011

TCS3/RH9/FM10

Windows XP

In RH7 when you copied (link is now the term in RH9) a book including the TOC, the TOC was automatically created with a pod that contained lovely books and topics that just required minor tweeks.

In RH9, it appears that you cannot link the TOC, and instead you have to import it.  I have imported a properly created FM TOC (complete with headings and sub-headings) and all I have ended up with is an empty TOC pod.

Do I have to map my TOC heading styles to an RH style? (Please tell me no. The thought of having to wrestle with the css is really more than I can bear.)

This seems like a real step backward to me in RH development, but I'm really starting to feel that way about the whole TCS3 (read frustration).

As usual, the Help is really deficient in this area.  I followed what little there was, but to no avail.

Thanks in advance.

Mary

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Community Expert ,
Apr 21, 2011 Apr 21, 2011

Hi Mary - the FM ToC should come over. On the first screen of the import it asks you if you want to bring in the ToC, Index and Glossary into RH. Check out some of the videos that RJ Jacquez did on his blog (former Tech Comm Evangelist with Adobe) or some webinars that Matt Sullivan did at Roundpeg.com on his blog. They may give you a better idea of how the integration works in the TCS.

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Explorer ,
Apr 21, 2011 Apr 21, 2011

Jeff,

Yes, I'm familiar with how it operated in RH7 which is what you described below, but at that point when you imported, the entire book was imported.  Now it appears that only the chapters come over.  Now you have to import the TOC and Index separately and then you don't get fully formed TOCs and Indexes.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 21, 2011 Apr 21, 2011

Sorry, not my experience. I get both my master book's ToC and Index being imported when I pull in my master book.

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Explorer ,
Apr 21, 2011 Apr 21, 2011

So no special settings other than selecting those check boxes to import.  You didn't have to map any styles?

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Community Expert ,
Apr 21, 2011 Apr 21, 2011

Not that I know of - maybe it's in the css that I use - I've never looked.

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Explorer ,
Apr 22, 2011 Apr 22, 2011

Jeff,

I just conducted another test and those dialog boxes do not display when you link a book in RH9. Even though my TOC and Index are part of the book that is being linked, they are not brought over into RH - not in the HTML Files or in the Table of Contents or Index folders in the Project Manager.

However, if you import the book, you do get these dialog boxes, and the TOC and Index look fine.

The whole idea of TCS3 is for integrating and maintaining a relationship between FM and RH.  If you import, you do not have that relationship. I think this must be a bug, don't you?

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Community Expert ,
Apr 22, 2011 Apr 22, 2011

Mary, you are correct...the behavior is different, but not a bug. The TOC/IX/GLO box you're expecting is available by right-clicking on the imported book file in your RH project manager.

IMO, they separated it because the linking in previous versions (TCS, TCS2) crashed a bit more than currently & it was important to separate the linking, the mapping, the updating, and the TOC functions. This way you can save your progress after each step. Funny that we now no longer really need to separate the functions, as the process (at least for me...) is much more solid.

Anyhow, that's where it is, and that's why they changed it...

-Matt

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Explorer ,
Apr 22, 2011 Apr 22, 2011

Matt,

Thanks for explaining this. Why couldn't they explain that in the Help or in the notes to users.

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Community Expert ,
Apr 25, 2011 Apr 25, 2011

Feel free to update the help and submit it to Adobe through the commenting feature in the Community Help file.

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Explorer ,
Apr 25, 2011 Apr 25, 2011
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I absolutely do that every time I try to access their help.  It has huge gaps.

Thanks for the assistance.

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