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lillibetUK
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May 1, 2008
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RoboHelp X5 : Scrolling/Non-scrolling regions

  • May 1, 2008
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Hi, It's Miss backwards thinking here :o),

After a search I found some posts about creating non-scrolling regions. However, what I would like to do is create a scrolling region inside a topic. I want to insert a graphic at top of topic, then have a region below that scolls so you can see the graphic but read the text underneath.

Either way; scrolling region or non-scrolling region, when using frames it appears that the graphic and the accompanying text have to be separate topics. I don't want to do this as my project would end up being a nightmare!

Can anyone suggest an alternative solution, or suggest how I can use frames in a better way that what my limited knowledge of them allows? Is there a feature in RH7 that allows you to do this, and therefore it's worth upgrading?

Thanks so much for your ideas.

L ;o))
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lillibetUKAuthor
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May 27, 2008
I played with this again today and I can more or less get it to behave as I would like. Having tweaked a few things I now need to work out exactly what I did so I can set this layout as a template for other topics.

I found that by changing the body scroll line to simply <body>, I get the normal topic scrolling as I wanted. So I can scroll down the page and have a separate scrolling region for the table of accompanying text. This works in the preview but I have yet to generate the output. So far it's looking very promising.

Thanks for all your help. I'll keep you posted.

Liz :o))
Peter Grainge
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Peter GraingeCommunity Expert
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May 27, 2008
I wouldn't like to say it is impossible but I think that would require a level of programming beyond the norm.

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Inspiring
May 27, 2008
A bit kludgy, but you could:

1. Create a bookmark at each table row.
2. Create a bookmark at the graphic.
3. Create image maps on the graphic that will link to each bookmark.
4. Add up-arrow links to return to the graphic.

Another way of implementing the frameset solution would be to place all your reference info into a single table with bookmarks at every row. That way, you'd have one topic for each screenshot just as you do now, and their second frame would call the single reference table/topic.

Or, you could try my original link about the non-scroll and scroll combo (in spite of your new distaste for that term). Simply create a new topic, and in TrueCode replace everything between the <BODY> and </BODY> tags (including the tags themselves) with the attached code below. There's no reason that should not work.


Good luck,
Leon
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lillibetUKAuthor
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May 23, 2008
Is it possible to edit the title in this thread to remove the 'Non-scrolling' part?
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lillibetUKAuthor
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May 6, 2008
Hi Guys,

After many hours of trying, including kidnapping one of our developers to help me, here is where I'm at so far...

Pete's suggestion:
After realising that I had got the scrolling/non scrolling regions the wrong way around in the HTML code [Doh!], I had very high hopes. Saved in the Truecode tab... Opened the WYSIWYG tab... Got a jumbled mess with the information for the scrolling overlaid on top of the information for the non-scrolling region. Hmmm... Not really practical! Although it did eventually get it's act together when I had clicked on several 'things', it didn't really work properly and I became convinced that if it was working properly it would not work as I intended.

Leon's suggestion:
I cannot get either method to work at all. I wonder if this is because the code in the examples have '<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">', and in my topic HTML it says '<!doctype HTML public "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Frameset//EN">'? No matter how many times I try changing this RH puts it back to 'Frameset'. Eventually I became so confused and gave up.

In conclusion, I have learned a little more about HTML code ;o), but I still have not achieved my goal. Although, what I'm thinking now is that I require a scrolling region within a normal, scrolling or otherwise, help topic.

Thanks Pete and Leon for your help so far. If either of you, or anyone else, has any other suggestions I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks

Liz
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Inspiring
May 6, 2008
Sorry if I misled you, but do not use anything but the what is in the BODY tags, including the tags themselves. (RH uses the frameset protocol, so you can't change that.)

As I said, the table version (#2) works perfectly in RH.


Good luck,
Leon
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lillibetUKAuthor
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May 6, 2008
Hi Leon,

No worries. Even if I just use the code in the body section, I can't get it to work. I'm probably being a numbskull as the tags in the RH code appear to be a little different, but I've tried using these countless times without success. Even if it did work, I'm not sure this is what I'm hoping for.

I think I actually require a scrolling region inside a normal help topic, rather than a scrolling region after a non-scrolling region. Any more ideas are very welcome!

Thanks for your help

Liz
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Pete_Lees
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May 1, 2008
Hi, L,

You can also do this using DHTML. See the HelpTips file available from the following page for examples:

http://www.simon-jones.org.uk/help.htm

Pete
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lillibetUKAuthor
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May 1, 2008
Thanks for the link Pete.
I've downloaded the help tips file and will give it a go.

Ta ra,

L :o))
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lillibetUKAuthor
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May 2, 2008
Hi,

Unfortunately we cannot get this to work. We followed the instructions for method 2 as that seemed to be the solution we wanted. Now, we have now a completely non-scolling help topic. However, we can highlight and drag the cursor down to the bottom of the page.

Do you have any ideas what we did wrong (although we have gone through the instructions repeatedly and got the same result each time)?
Is this method suitable for RoboHelp X5?
Does anyone have any other ideas to achieve the result I want?

Thanks for all your help

L :ol
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