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April 8, 2011
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TCS3; can't get bullets to display

  • April 8, 2011
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TCS3 (RH9/FM10) in Windows XP. Linking FM books to RH.

Just upgraded from TCS1 and everything that worked fine there, no longer works.  My bullets just aren't displaying. Here's what I've done:

  • The custom bullets are in baggage files in the project.
  • I've gone to Project Settings and selected the bullet paragraph styles, and then selected Convert Autonumber to RoboHelp list. (What's the difference between RoboHelp list and Autonumber list, anyway?)
  • I'm using a .css. Here is a sample for the Bullet1 style:

P.Bullet1 {
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;
font-size: 11pt;
text-indent: 0pt;
margin-left: -14pt;
margin-bottom: 5pt;
list-style-image: url(new_blue_bullet.png);
}
LI.p-Bullet1 {
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;
font-size: 11pt;
text-indent: 0pt;
margin-left: -14pt;
margin-bottom: 5pt;
list-style-image: url(new_blue_bullet.png);
}

I tried to make a change in RoboHelp using Styles, but got the following nonsensical message:

"If you wish to update Bullets and Numbering property, please modify the List style "p-StepsBullet". Autonumbering changes made to this Paragraph style "StepsBullet" will come into effect from here after, and will not be reflected in the existing content. Do you wish to proceed?"

I understand that this message is telling me to go to my .css and fix the style, and that the change will be made to everything but the topic that I have open. (The wording could sure use some help.)  When I chose to continue, I got a completely bewildering List for Autonumbering dialog box.

Couldn't really find anything in Help or the forums.

Will everything start wrapping correctly too, once the bullet issue is taken care of?

Thanks so much!

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Peter Grainge
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 8, 2011

The problem was heavily covered when RoboHelp 8 was launched. See Lists on my site.


See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips

@petergrainge

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cvgsAuthor
Inspiring
April 8, 2011

I think I'm missing something really big here.  I went to Peter's site, but didn't find what I need.

What I'm seeing is that none of my ordered lists (ol) or unordered lists (ul) exist any more.  The tags are gone!  The only thing that is left are the list items in the ULs and they don't even have an li tag any more.  Here's an example:

<p class="BodyLevel1">Using the <span style="font-weight: bold;">Release
Management</span>&#160;option in <span style="font-weight: bold;">Deployer
Toolkit</span>, you can do the following: </p>
<p class="Bullet1">Edit a release.</p>
<p class="Bullet1">Add a release.</p>
<p class="Bullet1">Change the order in which releases are displayed in
the user panel on the CDDS main page. </p>
<p class="Bullet1">Delete a release.</p>
<p class="Bullet1">Promote a release to the next level.</p>
<p class="Bullet1">Generate merge warnings.</p>
<p class="Bullet1" style="margin-bottom: 8.000pt;">Freeze a release. </p>
</body>

Here's an example of an ordered list:

<p class="BodyLevel1">After you edit or create a domain, you must deploy
it into an environment.</p>
<p class="Stepsn1">In the CDDS UI left navigation bar, select the <span
  style="font-weight: bold;">Domain</span> that you want to deploy.</p>

What wiped these out and what can I do to get them back using a .css? I am linking to FM book files.

Jeff_Coatsworth
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 8, 2011

Okay, I figured this out after pouring through numerous sources.  Here is how you have your unordered lists

and ordered lists display correctly in your Help project if you are migrating from an earlier verion of TCS. (I'm using structured FM and linking

my FM books to my RH project:

  1. Format your books before linking to RH. Then link the book to RH (File > Link>FrameMaker document.)
  2. Associate your .css with the project (Right-click all topics in the topic list and select Properties. Click the Appearance tab and then select the style sheet you want to use. Be sure you update by selecting File>Update> Update  All.)
  3. Import the .isf that contains the mapping of your FM styles to RH styles. (File>Project Settings>Import. Browse to your isf file that will populate the Load Settings from text box. If you don't have an .isf file, you can create it on the Import tab by clickinig Edit in the FrameMaker Document panel.)
  4. Click Edit in the FrameMaker Document panel and select an ordered or unordered list from the FrameMaker Settings list box.
  5. For unordered list (bullets) or ordered lists (numbered), select Convert Autonumber to HTML List. This creates the OL and UL tags that will give you the bulleting and numbering feature.

Hope this helps someone out.


Just an additional note - settings .isf files will only work when you are linking, not when you import.