I visit the site every day in the search section. And today I noticed that suddenly by default "Exclude Generative AI" is now set when searching!
This is a serious loss for the creators of AI content, because from now on AI content will sell even worse, several times worse.
Even if the user does not find a relevant image among regular photos and illustrations, Adobe Stock will not suggest options from AI content when setting "Exclude Generative AI"!
This is a terrible innovation for AI creators, about which the creators of AI content were not informed in any way.
How long will it last? Or forever?
Is there any information about this anywhere? News? I have not received any letter from Adobe.
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People asked for Sticky, not Permanent!
Adobe rolled back the modifications. I suppose, based on that, that they tried something, and it did not work out as they thought it should.
Hey Contributors!
As part of our commitment to providing the best experience for both customers and contributors, we periodically test user functionality for a subset of our customers
With the results of these tests, we continue to improve content discovery for our customers, enabling them to easily find the best content to meet their needs.
We will continue to keep the contributor community informed and engaged as we introduce new features and improvements.
Cheers!
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I'm persuaded that you are wrong
By @Abambo
Provide a list of positions or words I have said in which I am wrong. What are you convinced of, in which I am wrong? Cite at least one sentence of mine and explain why I am wrong in my reasoning (but do not include my hypotheses that you consider "conspiracy theories", we can neither confirm nor deny them, but I have every right to express my opinion).
It seems to me that you do not grasp the context of what I have said and thought of something else.
By @'NO-AI' NOT ALLOWED
I've done that to a great extend. I won't repeat all where you are wrong.
Yes, you can express your opinion and I can express my opinion that you are wrong.
That is quite unfair and demotivating for AI contributors, what's the sense to upload if noone will see your content with this filter
By @Alexandra34520339p8jn
Sorry, no. It's your choice to contribute.
The same argumentation could be used for photographers waiting weeks to get their assets approved, just to get hidden behind thousands of generative AI assets in the search. Business is not about fairness. And Adobe does not have to be fair towards a certain group, except towards their customers. If you feel demotivated, you need to quit.
Again: the Adobe stock site does not exist, to give contributors money, it exists, because it's part of Adobe's business model to serve the creative community. We contributors are necessary to fuel this business model, that's why you are getting a share of the sales.
You need to stay realistic about your role in this. Adobe spends money to keep you happy, but it is not a not for profit organization. Clearly, it is using contributors to make more money so that the CEO can keep the shareholders happy.
Filters are designed to allow users to manually select their preferences and save them for future use.
Now those customers who look for AI generated assets are forced to adjust pre-selected settings each time, this undermines the purpose of filters and creates unnecessary friction. THIS IS NOT A USER FRIENDLY EXPERIENCE.
By @Devan1238
Before this update, enabling this filter needed multiple operations, and not all customers did know about the filter. Today, all you have to do is to click a simple flag.
So don't complain. This is much more userfriendly than the prior situation.
By @Devan1238
By just paying attention to a customer base (...)
Adobe created something that is easier to use than what was before.
So don't complain. This is much more userfriendly than the prior situation.
Adobe created something that is easier to use than what was before.
By @Abambo
This is a simple solution, I agree, but it is NOT correct and not user-friendly enough, and at the same time it greatly limits AI content by automatically hiding 35% of all content. That is why this topic has grown, and that is why there is so much emotion here.
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
By @'NO-AI' NOT ALLOWED
Yes, you are wrong. Check out with Shutterstock, how they handle this.
Am I wrong?
By @'NO-AI' NOT ALLOWEDYes, you are wrong. Check out with Shutterstock, how they handle this.
By @Abambo
For some unknown reason, your response feels toxic and I didn't see the reasoning, so from my point of view, you didn't give an adequate response. I'm upset by this fact, because I don't understand the reason for your reaction to my messages.
Shutterstock does not sell AI content from its photo bank and has not started working with AI contributors, unlike Adobe Stock. So the offers to go to Shutterstock look strange and inappropriate. You could have given an example of Vecteezy, Freepik, Dreamstime, Devianart, Creative Market, 123rf or any other services where 100% AI content is sold, but you only give an example of Shutterstock. I wonder why you give an example of those sites that do not work with AI contributors?
And why do you react to my messages like that, what's the matter?
For some unknown reason, your response feels toxic and I didn't see the reasoning, so from my point of view, you didn't give an adequate response. I'm upset by this fact, because I don't understand the reason for your reaction to my messages.
By @'NO-AI' NOT ALLOWED
If you did follow my reasoning, you will have notioced, that I agree, that a sticky solution would have been better. But as a customer, who always needed to disable the generative AI assets from invading my search requests, and who needed always several clicks to get to that, I feel that this interesting new behaviour as an entity brings advantages to all buyers.
Those who want to see generative AI assets, can do so by doing only one easy click.
Formerly, customers who did want to exclude generative AI needed to know about the filter option, needed to click the filter widget, needed to search for the generative AI section and needed to exclude generative AI. And this for each visit to the site, which was highly annoying and not at all userfriendly.
Shutterstock does not sell AI content from its photo bank and has not started working with AI contributors, unlike Adobe Stock. So the offers to go to Shutterstock look strange and inappropriate. You could have given an example of Vecteezy, Freepik, Dreamstime, Devianart, Creative Market, 123rf or any other services where 100% AI content is sold, but you only give an example of Shutterstock. I wonder why you give an example of those sites that do not work with AI contributors?
By @'NO-AI' NOT ALLOWED
I do not source or contribute to any of Vecteezy, Freepik, Dreamstime, Devianart, Creative Market, 123rf, so I won't comment on their policy, nor how they create their user interface. I contribute to Shutterstock, so I know that they pay only 10 cents per asset (max, except if you have higher sales volumes that reset periodically) and that they do not offer a market place for your generative AI assets. So, all in all: you can be unhappy with Adobe's decision(s), but they allow you to contribute and the pay you high amounts of royalties.
Those who want to see generative AI assets, can do so by doing only one easy click.
By @Abambo
All I see is you defending a mediocre solution to a problem instead of just agreeing that we need a full solution to the problem and stop attacking me with the statement that I am supposedly wrong.
As I said - the previous behavior was even worse, did I argue with you about it, did I ever say that it is better than the current one? No!
However, the current behavior is not the right innovation either. You claim that it is right, citing only the side of that part of customers who are happy to exclude AI from search constantly.
BUT you don't give a damn about other buyers and contributors if you support the current innovation in the filter without the selection memory function (Sticky).
Once again - the current solution is simple (from the point of view of development and solving the problem for some users), but the current solution is NOT the best and NOT the right one.
I can say that getty is very strict with it, especially last time, I create vector illustrations and I need to provide steps of my work for every illustration or it will not be approved, before 2022 I needed to provide steps only for realistic artworks, now I need to do it for every illustration what I submitt
By @Анна27582523x6u0
Interesting to know. SO getty does not accept generative AI, neither?
they don't accept AI at all at this moment and their inspectors are very strict about it, but they are working on their own AI, maybe they will allow illustration from their own AI
By @Анна27582523x6u0
That is not true. And there is made no distinction made between Firefly assets and any other generative AI asset. But it is good news that moderators are very strict because too many bad assets are in the database by now. There is no need for many others.
a sticky filter to allow them to easily eliminate AI assets frim their search results
By @Jill_C
Clarifying note for other users:
Adobe Stock did not provide the Sticky filter as requested by users, but changed the regular AI filter to a default value recently, which resets to the default value on page reload. This can be annoying when you search across all content without exception.
Clarifying note for other users:
Adobe Stock did not provide the Sticky filter as requested by users, but changed the regular AI filter to a default value recently, which resets to the default value on page reload. This can be annoying when you search across all content without exception.
By @'NO-AI' NOT ALLOWED
That's only half correct. They only changed the default value of the filter from "all" to "exclude" AI content on search. The rest of the filter behaviour is as it was before. Before, the site was also always resetting to the default value on a reload.
In addition, however, they changed also the information that is shown to the user on a search. Instead of keeping the filter options closed, they now expand that widget, so that users are aware of the filter feature. Before, many users simply did not know about the filter, with many other options to select from.
And as a consequence of how the filtering is shown to the user, the user has a simple flag, that they can delete, to get shown all content, as before. So, the overall user experience improved.
A consequence of this is, that at a first search, no AI content is shown, wich for sure at a first sight does disadvantage AI content, as there is a possibility that the user finds what they search without lookling at AI content.
What we don't know is what Adobe brought to this decision. I, however, suspect, that Adobe did some user behaviour research, and that they came to the conclusion, that this gives the users the best user experience. This will make the users happier and sales should go up, which will at the end also profit generative AI providers.
If this decision from Adobe does not please you, you are free to introduce an idea on the idea section of the stock forum, to ask Adobe to set this filter either to a sticky behaviour, or to revert to the prior situation.
This is a customer oriented decision, and not a contributor oriented decision, as was also opening the database for generative AI. And my argument always was, with people (customers and contributors) vehemently being against generative AI, that generative AI sells, so that there is a need for those. Adobe will not end the presence of generative AI on this plattform, as long as they make money from that.
I have to wonder how this change will affect my assets that have sold dozens of times over. I can't image that they will show up anymore if the AI filter is set to Exclude.
By @daniellei4510
That's correct. They won't show up by default. That will hurt your sales eventually.
The question that Adobe is interested in: are users buying generative AI easily switching off the filter, because the photographic search results do not satisfy them? Or are they turning their back to Adobe stock?
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