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Firefly training on contributor images? Hope not!

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June 12, 2024
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Hi.

The Firefly FAQ says: "we don't train on any Creative Cloud subscribers’ personal content. For Adobe Stock contributors, the content is part of Firefly’s training dataset, in accordance with Stock Contributor license agreements." (https://helpx.adobe.com/firefly/faq.html#training-data).

But my contributor agreament does not say anything on trainng Firefly or any other generative AI (https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20240216.pdf).

As a photographer, I do not want to allow such training on my images.

So where is the truth, are my images used for Firefly training without my knowledge? And if so, how can I cancel this?

Thanks.

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Hi.

The Firefly FAQ says: "we don't train on any Creative Cloud subscribers’ personal content. For Adobe Stock contributors, the content is part of Firefly’s training dataset, in accordance with Stock Contributor license agreements." (https://helpx.adobe.com/firefly/faq.html#training-data).

But my contributor agreament does not say anything on trainng Firefly or any other generative AI (https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20240216.pdf).

As a photographer, I do not want to allow such training on my images.

So where is the truth, are my images used for Firefly training without my knowledge? And if so, how can I cancel this?

Thanks.

By @ivank11134774

Adobe always was open on this. Contributor assets are used for Firefly training and authors receive compensation for that. And the contributor agreement allows for that.

To avoid that, you need to close your account!

Kevin Stohlmeyer

Community Expert

Adobe has posted updated Terms with explainers:

https://www.adobe.com/legal/terms.html

and responses from an interview with Scott Belsky:

https://petapixel.com/2024/06/18/adobes-terms-of-use-controversy-provided-an-opportunity-to-improve/

Abambo

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Hi.

The Firefly FAQ says: "we don't train on any Creative Cloud subscribers’ personal content. For Adobe Stock contributors, the content is part of Firefly’s training dataset, in accordance with Stock Contributor license agreements." (https://helpx.adobe.com/firefly/faq.html#training-data).

But my contributor agreament does not say anything on trainng Firefly or any other generative AI (https://wwwimages2.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/servicetou/Adobe_Stock_Contributor_Agreement_Addl_Terms_en_US_20240216.pdf).

As a photographer, I do not want to allow such training on my images.

So where is the truth, are my images used for Firefly training without my knowledge? And if so, how can I cancel this?

Thanks.

By @ivank11134774

Adobe always was open on this. Contributor assets are used for Firefly training and authors receive compensation for that. And the contributor agreement allows for that.

To avoid that, you need to close your account!

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

@ivank11134774,

Some but not all Stock content was used to train Adobe's Generative AI, Firefly. However if your content was selected, you received separate compensation for it -- above and beyond your normal Stock royalty fees & bonuses.

For more about Stock Contributor Royalty Fees & Bonuses, and Firefly FAQ, see links below.

If you have additional questions, please contact Stock Contributor Support directly from your Contributor page.

Contact Stock Contributor Support: https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/contact

This user-to-user community can't help with account related questions and Adobe doesn't discuss user accounts in a public forum.

Hope that helps.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Kevin Stohlmeyer

Community Expert

@ivank11134774 your post specifically calls out the Stock Contributor agreement which is why this was posted there. For more information regarding AI training on Adobe Stock Contributions see: https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock-contributors-discussions/clarification-on-generative-ai-submission-guidelines/td-p/14252276

daniellei4510

Community Expert

All the legalese aside, if you don't want your images to be used for training, I believe your only option is to ask to have your account removed. You can't opt out, to the best of my knowledge.

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droopydog500

Community Manager

@ivank11134774, you are really asking a question about how contributions to Adobe Stock are used and what agreements permit that, so I moved your post to Adobe Stock Contributors.

droopy

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ivank11134774Author

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This question was aimed at the Firefly team as they suposely wrote those FAQ, they train Firefly, and could answer my question, I believe. There is nothing to discuss with Adobe Stock contributors. Please, return this post as intended. Thanks.

droopydog500

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Moved back. But it is an Adobe Stock question.

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