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New to community; First uploads rejected for quality - looking for feedback to improve

  • January 25, 2023
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Hello everyone,

 

I have just joined the community, and my first round of uploads (13 illustrations) were rejected with a general comment about quality.

 

Could you help me with feedback about where I am going wrong? Are there artifacts in here I just don't see? Is it possibly details in the image that are just not good enough or realistic enough?

 

Given they all were rejected with the same general quality issues tag I am thinking this is something systemic to my process or understanding of community standards and expectations.

 

I did run these through Topaz Gigapixel to upscale as they were all originally smaller than the submission standards require.

 

Thank you for any input you can provide

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Correct answer Nancy OShea

Upscaling a low res AI in post won't work.  It must be generated at high res (upscale).  Midjourney costs more for high res upscales due to extra bandwidth and server time.  But the image quality is better for selling on Stock. 

 

AI is not perfect.  It doesn't handle details well.  Examine images at 100-300% magnification.  Clean up the imprefections if you can.  Discard the ones you can't.

 

Good luck.

 

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Nancy OShea
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Nancy OSheaCommunity Expert
Community Expert
January 25, 2023

You should never upscale raster images.  If they don't meet submission requirements, upscaling will invariably introduce unwanted artifacts, loss of details and pixelation.  Read the Stock Contributor DOs & DON'Ts section where it specifically mentions this.

 

That said, if you create vector artwork, upscaling is not an issue because math-based vectors are resolution independent.  Vectors can be re-scaled to any size needed without loss of detail.  For this reason, vectors are preferred for illustrations, logos, icons, comics & drawings. Pixel-based rasters, however, are very resolution dependant and will suffer when upscaled.

 

 

Hope that helps.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
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    Fyr Ond IsenAuthor
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    January 25, 2023

    Thank you for the input.

     

    These images orginated from work in MidJourney. I edited a couple in Affinity Designer 2, and one actually went through a round in InvokeAI before Affinity Designer 2. All went through Upscale in Topaz.

     

    I did read through the AI submission guidlines, and thought I followed them, but I will revisit the guidlines and see if I missed anything.

     

    Are all of the items you mention generally considered adequate for rejection by themselves, or would it be a cumulative effect of all of these issues together?

     

    Have you ever upscaled? If so, do you find you have to go back and remove artifacts, or do you generally start from a size already adequate to meet the standards?

     

    Thank you again, I appreciate your input.

    Nancy OShea
    Community Expert
    Nancy OSheaCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
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    January 25, 2023

    Upscaling a low res AI in post won't work.  It must be generated at high res (upscale).  Midjourney costs more for high res upscales due to extra bandwidth and server time.  But the image quality is better for selling on Stock. 

     

    AI is not perfect.  It doesn't handle details well.  Examine images at 100-300% magnification.  Clean up the imprefections if you can.  Discard the ones you can't.

     

    Good luck.

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
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    Fyr Ond IsenAuthor
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    January 25, 2023

    Thank you. I will double check my upscale settings in MidJourney. I do have a paid subscription that will allow relaxed processing and I am not concerned much with time to process so if I can increase the resolution of my initial upscaled render this will be ideal.

     

    And I will look at working in vectors as you mentioned; I know I can export my images from a couple of my editors as vector. I have just not tried exporting a png to a vector yet to see if anything unexpected happens. I will spend some time on this learning what I can and can't do.

     

    Thank you.

    George_F
    Community Expert
    George_FCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    January 25, 2023

    What program did you use to create these illustrations?  Are these AI generated?  If so, did you follow the submission guidelines here

     

    I see several oddities that I believe would be considered technical flaws when zoomed in to between 100% - 200%.  I've circled a few of them.

     

     

    The details look soft on a few when zoomed in.  And the texture seems to change throughout the image in a few of them.

     

    There are also compression artefacts around the edges, possibly from upscaling with Topaz.

     

    I hope this helps 🙂

     

    George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer
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