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Number of submitted photos in the moderation queue. When will the limit be extended?

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Apr 12, 2024 Apr 12, 2024

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At first there was a limit of 50 pieces, now it’s 500 pieces, when will the limit be expanded? Thanks in advance for answer!

 

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Apr 12, 2024 Apr 12, 2024

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It's just a guess, but we suspect the limit is extended when the number of assets sold is equal to the limit. So if you sell 500 assets, your limit will jump to 3001. We think. We don't know for sure.

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Apr 12, 2024 Apr 12, 2024

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Thank you! 

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Apr 12, 2024 Apr 12, 2024

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The limit has been instaured to get the moderation process again to normal. It's gradual, it's imcreased with experience, but the exact rules have not published by Adobe. But having 500 assets waiting in the moderation queue is a lot. That means you can add 500 assets in 8 weeks, if your assets are waiting the maximum indicated time. That's a nice growth. And that would mean that you would work around 4 hours a day 7/7 with 30 minutes to cure errors in the files. That is a lot. 

 

More experienced contributors have a limit of 3000, which is the current maximum. 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Apr 12, 2024 Apr 12, 2024

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Well put. I reached the 501 max quite some time ago and then Adobe started reviewing and accepting my images faster than I could replace them, especially since I got a better feel for what WON'T be accepted and I began spending more and more time editing assets before submission. For food, backgrounds, animals, etc., 30 minutes sounds about right for AI (and I'm guessing the OP is doing AI as well, if they're concerned about when the 501 limit will be increased). But since I specialize in photorealistic portraits, fashion, and people in general, I worry if I spend less than an hour or two editing the same. Fixing dozens of fly-away hairs alone can take 30 minutes., especially since AI has a habit of making sure those hairs cover the subject's face, neck, and eyes.

Anyway, point being, for about every 6 or so images accepted daily, I manage to submit 5 or 6 just trying to keep up and I'm down about 350 assets from my 501 max. If that's what it still is. It's inconsquential in the overall scheme of things.

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Apr 12, 2024 Apr 12, 2024

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Yes, I understand. But I'm not really understand about mistakes. I dont have any mistakes. They take 25 of 30, or even 95 of 100 of my images without any requests to change. In my other files the quality is really lower, and I don’t mind if they weren’t taken - they’re are right (moderators). Moderation time for me personally now takes 20-23 days. I also populate files in batches, so it takes about 2 hours to send 500 files (with all the hashtags and unique titles, but still using some templates for hastags because photos are little similar).

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Apr 13, 2024 Apr 13, 2024

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Yes, I understand. But I'm not really understand about mistakes. I dont have any mistakes.


By @JuliO111

Nice. I'm happy that your pictures are perfect, but I doubt that they are. 

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They take 25 of 30, or even 95 of 100 of my images without any requests to change. In my other files the quality is really lower, and I don’t mind if they weren’t taken - they’re are right (moderators). Moderation time for me personally now takes 20-23 days. I also populate files in batches, so it takes about 2 hours to send 500 files (with all the hashtags and unique titles, but still using some templates for hastags because photos are little similar).


By @JuliO111

Titleing and keywording 500 files in 2 hours? You are typing faster then your shadow! That makes about 15 seconds per asset. If your generative AI assets (or are you submitting real photos?) are "little similar", you're spamming. That leads to blocked accounts.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Well, I don’t have a problem with small pupils, six fingers, elements hanging in the air, pixelation of hair and eyelashes, strange shadows, asymmetrical design of clothes and smt like that. I always edit the images, of course, and not just generate them. It seems to me that it is already clear that no one will accept photos with errors like with fingers and there is no point in wasting my own time and also moderator's. Therefore, for some types of photos I have 6-7 zones of edits. But some subjects just doesnt need it.

 

The problems that I still have: this is the pixelation of nature (if you do Midourney, you know that a normal forest panorama  now have terrible quality), but Adobe accepts these photos anyway (?). But I’m ashamed to make them of such quality, so I don’t do them yet and focus on different subjects. So far, any panorama of the meadow is horror still.

 

Not it's not like that like spamming. Simple example female portrait with blur background. So we have different race/make up/hair type/occupancy/interior etc. I have 10 years of experience as a content manager so it's just the habit of doing everything according to the system, and it’s fast. So it's totally different images. For example black woman doctor and white woman student. But in the end 90% of hashtags are the same (female / close up / smile / portraits etc). I just systematically approach my work. I take 50 photos of a similar type, and don’t scatter my attention. This is useful.

 

Those photos that were rejected from me: in one I did not notice the black line / white line (smt MidJourney do it), in the other, upon closer examination, the quality is poor (it is not clear why it is lower than usual), the third is too dark. This is normal non-acceptance, I like the moderation policy for 100%.

 

But I would like to expand the limit to 3000 of course))). Considering that my acceptance rate is quite large, although not ideal. Now I have 500 photos in queue, I hope that about 480-490 of them will be accepted.

 

My stat: 27 out of 300 were not accepted. Moreover, I sent 10 of these 27 of the wrong quality at the very beginning long time ago, when I had little understanding of how Midjourney works. Now I see. Therefore, the acceptance rate now will not be 270 out of 300, but about 280-290 out of 300. But yes, I do a lot of image editing before it (via MidJourney itself and smt just in any editor).

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Well, I don’t have a problem with small pupils, six fingers, elements hanging in the air, pixelation of hair and eyelashes, strange shadows, asymmetrical design of clothes and smt like that. I always edit the images, of course, and not just generate them. It seems to me that it is already clear that no one will accept photos with errors like with fingers and there is no point in wasting my own time and also moderator's. Therefore, for some types of photos I have 6-7 zones of edits. But some subjects just doesnt need it.

 


By @JuliO111

Great. Some people claim that such errors are normal and that Adobe accepted the last time, so they need to do that again.

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The problems that I still have: this is the pixelation of nature (if you do Midourney, you know that a normal forest panorama  now have terrible quality), but Adobe accepts these photos anyway (?). But I’m ashamed to make them of such quality, so I don’t do them yet and focus on different subjects. So far, any panorama of the meadow is horror still.


By @JuliO111

For once, someone who has understood that quality matters.

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Not it's not like that like spamming. Simple example female portrait with blur background. So we have different race/make up/hair type/occupancy/interior etc. I have 10 years of experience as a content manager so it's just the habit of doing everything according to the system, and it’s fast. So it's totally different images. For example black woman doctor and white woman student. But in the end 90% of hashtags are the same (female / close up / smile / portraits etc). I just systematically approach my work. I take 50 photos of a similar type, and don’t scatter my attention. This is useful.


By @JuliO111

Except that they are generated (?), indeed this is not spamming. And optimizing the work is not forbidden.

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Those photos that were rejected from me: in one I did not notice the black line / white line (smt MidJourney do it), in the other, upon closer examination, the quality is poor (it is not clear why it is lower than usual), the third is too dark. This is normal non-acceptance, I like the moderation policy for 100%.


By @JuliO111

Some rejections are normal. Rejection vs acceptance in the low single digit percentage is great.

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But I would like to expand the limit to 3000 of course))). Considering that my acceptance rate is quite large, although not ideal. Now I have 500 photos in queue, I hope that about 480-490 of them will be accepted.


By @JuliO111

That's good. Please update this post, when your allowance augments. That will help us to understand the mechanism a little better, even that I doubt that there is one truth. The parameter seems to be floating and get adapted from time to time.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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For now my limit is still 500 pieces. But sales are much less than 500 pieces, so for now I'm waiting. My failure rate (I only do AI MidJourney, no res photography) remains at 3.5-4%. That is, 4 photos out of 100 are not accepted. But I have not yet been asked to edit a single photo. I guess that 33% of those not accepted were considered spam, because the photos are very similar and they only left 3 version totally.

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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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You don't have to guess at why your images were rejected. Most are rejected for quality issues, but some are rejected for being too similar.

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Jun 06, 2024 Jun 06, 2024

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A rejection rate of 3-5% with no editing? And most get rejected for “similar”?

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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I don’t know exactly why they refuse, but I see a pattern that if there are more than 3 similar ones in one style, the 4th or 5th one is rejected.

 

About editing I dont know what you mean.

1) They never send me anything “for editing”.

2) No, I'm not editing in any editor (like Photoshop) anymore, I'm editing only in MidJourney.

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Virtually EVERY result that you get in Midjourney or any AI program is going to require editing, no matter how slight. And other than extending, in-painting, or refreshing your images to get different results, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "editing" in Midjourney. You will not increase your acceptance rate until you start editing in Photoshop or other graphics applications. And yes, three is the recommended number of similar assets one should submit at one time, unless they are vastly different from one another. And even those three should be very different from the other.

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Virtually EVERY result that you get in Midjourney or any AI program is going to require editing, no matter how slight.


By @daniellei4510

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Agreed 100%

AI is far from perfect.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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About editing I dont know what you mean.

1) They never send me anything “for editing”.

2) No, I'm not editing in any editor (like Photoshop) anymore, I'm editing only in MidJourney.


By @JuliO111

You do not get assets returned for editing. They get refused. You need to edit before submitting. Editing is for removing errors. In photography, that may mean correcting the exposure, reducing noise, deleting chromatic aberration, removing logos, etc.

 

With generative AI, that means simply correcting the errors and artefacts introduced by the AI: removing rendering errors!

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Apr 12, 2024 Apr 12, 2024

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The parameters to "earn" a higher limit are unknown; Adobe has never made that info public. But we suspect that it has to do with acceptance rate and sales history. As your account gains more experience, and more sales, the limit will eventually be increased. In the meantime, you can upload as many as you want to your account, add titles and keywords and submit them as soon as the number under review drops below 500. 

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Helpful advice! I recently discovered that if only part of the files are accepted, and the rest is waiting: for example, 20 files are accepted, then I can immediately send 20 more files 🙂

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Apr 13, 2024 Apr 13, 2024

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Yes, as soon as a slot is free, you can submit a new asset. That is quite logical. I even wouldn't mention that, as it is the same also in "real life". 

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Thank you so much for answers for everybody!

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IMO, nobody should submit more than 500 images for review.  It slows down the review process for EVERYONE!

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User, Community Expert & Moderator
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Yep. And let's not forget the reason the limitation was established in the first place nor a few previous contributors who had their accounts disabled for spamming. 

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Apr 14, 2024 Apr 14, 2024

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yes, new contributors with no experience whatever, not even reading the instructions, submitting tens of thousands assets in a good day in an automated manner. That lead to an overloading of the moderation queues. 

 

There was one guy who got accepted, before getting blocked, 60,000 assets in the course of two or three months. He claimed a low rejection rate, but that was before moderators were trained to look for the typical generative AI errors.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Jun 07, 2024 Jun 07, 2024

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Omg 60 000 assets its trully hard! 

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Jun 08, 2024 Jun 08, 2024

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The person created new assets automatically and uploaded without human interaction. Then he got banned because the assets had problems. Normal.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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