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Quality Issues rejection

Explorer ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Hi.

Just got this batch rejected for "Quality Issues"

I don't mass upload. This was a batch of 5 images, all rejected.

Can anyone suggest what where the "Quality Issues"?

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Community Expert ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Well put. I've seen a slight...a VERY slight...up tik in rejections for my AI submissions. After fixing those very slight flaws and resubmitting them, they are being accepted on a slow but almost daily basis. To discover those flaws, I have to view the image at 300% in order for the flaws to stand out.

I'm TRYING to get into the habit of viewing all my assets at 300% before submission, but it's easy to get lazy after a long day of editing and find them suitable for submission at 100% to 200%. That's usually enough to still get a high acceptance rate, but not enough if one's goal is to get 100% with every batch of assets submitted.


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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2024 Jan 02, 2024

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As for the windows. They are by AI image generations standard "perfect".


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

That may not be good enough.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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As for the windows. They are by AI image generations standard "perfect".


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

Buyers could expect better.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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There is both snow and sunshine in both of these images.

 

Edit: snow falling


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Explorer ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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If you refer to snow in the air. There is only one image with snow in the air.

Which can be blown by the wind from the ground and not falling from the sky. If we are nitpicking. So totaly plausable.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Your images were rejected for some reason.  I think you should reconsider the advice you requested.

 

Cheers


George F, Fine Art Landscape Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Also, with your shallow DoF technokogy images, there is too little in focus in the image.  These have commonly been rejected, even before AI images were a thing.  It's pretty easy to add blur in Photoshop.

 

I believe the technology images are also too dark, and this is reflected by the histogram.


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Explorer ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Technology images are to be used as a background. They are uploaded to "Graphic Resources" cathegory.

They are ment to be dark and non distracting. One of the reasons for heavy use of shalow depth of field.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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I get it, rejections are hard.

 

You've asked for our opinions, and we've given them to you.  I hope you consider them.


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Explorer ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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I am in microstock since 2009 with vectors, 3d graphics and photos, having even been featured on front pages on some of the stock sites. Rejections are not hard for me 🙂

Just needed another set of eyes. One of the posters did help me, to go into another direction with analizing the rejections.

I hade my toughts about the sudden decrease in the review times, even with the increase of ai images uploads.

There is no raise in the quality standard by adobe, if we look at what is approwed on a daily basis.

So there is obviously another problem.

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Explorer ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Same problem, I always upload 20 max 30 photos to AI every day. I clarify that I have over 16k files (10 years between fotolia and adobe) I'm not new. Either they are perfect or I don't upload them. Usually 1 max 2 photos are discarded... but 70 photos in two days all discarded... whether they are photorealistic illustrations seems exaggerated to me.

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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Knock on wood, but I'm having the opposite problem. I'm having more images accepted than I have the time to edit and submit. I'm retired and pretty much spend a good 8+ hours a day editing AI and I can't edit anywhere near 20 to 30 images per day, much less title and keyword them. Of course, your subject matter may be completely different from mine and not require as much editing, but without seeing a couple examples, it's all conjecture.


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Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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This is why I've been reviewing images at 300% before submitting them. Note the difference in grain where it ends and abruptly becomes smooth. This would be rejected if a strict moderator got hold of it (as some in the past have). I didn't check to see if this happened during the initial rendering or during upscaling but it did happen and I've added grain locally and hopefully will pass.

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Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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You are not giving up do you.

He just told you that he has 10 year stock experience.

Do you realy think that someone like that doesnt know the quality standards for stock?

Just accept the fact that people noticed that algoritam took over the review process and that its making mistakes.

Both ways. Rejecting and keeping some obvious rejects.

Maybe there is a hybreed system. First sweep is done by algoritam and then it goes to human review.

Same thing happend on shutterstock years ago.

It was obvious when we started getting 5 seconds reviews on 20 image batches. Literarly as soon as you hit submit.

It came to the point that human review is simple not an option anymore, when the upload volume is high.

You have "Community Expert" under your name. Try to find out how many AI images are uploaded to adobe on a daily basis.

From that the math is simple.

You mentioning 300% review on AI images is so redundant that it is beyond belief. Not to use some "other" words.

You are talking about upscaled images that would never in a milion years pass a stock industry standard review.

Adobe is fully avare of that.

There is no AI generator available, to civilians, that produce images that can pass a regular (human) stock review.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 01, 2024 Jan 01, 2024

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"It was obvious when we started getting 5 seconds reviews on 20 image batches. Literarly as soon as you hit submit."

Then Adobe has really slow computers doing the algorhytms, seeing as how a very high number of contributors are waiting up to 8 weeks or longer to have assets reviewed.

Again. We've heard all this before. You are not telling us anything new. Contributors start seeing a high number of their images being rejected and the theories start flying in all directions. Maybe Adobe stock is not for you.


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Explorer ,
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@daniellei4510Well shutterstock "payed" the price for that 5sec slipup. Once the word spread, review times went back to couple of days. By miracle 3:) When implementing new systems, mistakes happen.

It was "bad press", that 5sec incident. I am sure that people in adobe are remembering that.

And who is waiting 8 weeks now? I get a review in couple of days.

But now that you mention it. Wery possible that high volume AI uploaders get penalized by the system.

It wouldn't be hard. Couple of lines in the code.

Look at it as a deterrent. To slow them down 3:)

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Community Expert ,
Jan 02, 2024 Jan 02, 2024

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Just accept the fact that people noticed that algoritam took over the review process and that its making mistakes.


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

Algorithms don't make errors, they have bugs. Adobe confirms that checking is done by humans. And that is the reason for the delays. With algorithms, you would just need to add computing power and the delays would be gone. 

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You are talking about upscaled images that would never in a milion years pass a stock industry standard review.

Adobe is fully avare of that.

There is no AI generator available, to civilians, that produce images that can pass a regular (human) stock review.


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

That is the reason you need to check your generative AI assets, and you need to correct the errors. There are too many bad assets in the database, and the aim of stock is not to throw in some scrap images and see if customers complain. A complaining customer has spent hours researching the correct asset, modelling a work, submitting that to their customer, getting approval, licensing and sending the final design to the printer. If after all that work, the buyer sees that the quality is not good enough, they have to go back to the client with alternative designs. That's an impossible situation. That is what Adobe is fully aware of. 

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Explorer ,
Jan 02, 2024 Jan 02, 2024

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@Abambo I have news for you, delays are gone.

When adobe was explaining the delays, review lasted few months.

Now the review is couple of days and that time falls under "normal". Even with ai images upload increasing exponentialy every single day.

So what happend? How did the adobe reviewers went from 2 months to 2 days, with increased workload?

Magic? Adobe hired superhumans?

 

As for the "customer experience".

Stock buyers have eyes. There is even zoom options.

Buying stock images is the definition of "what you see is what you get".

If you are buying a vissual asset to use in your work. Well, the whole point is in visual inspection to see if it will fit your needs.

You will always have "Caren" buyers. But they will complain even when they buy a perfect photo shot on phase camera.

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Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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The second winter landscape image has a street lamp growing out of a tree branch. There's also a tree branch growing out of a street lamp, so maybe that creates a sense of balance. BTW this is my first post here. : )

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Explorer ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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Explorer ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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Me too... over 300 photos discarded in recent days

 

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Community Expert ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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By @Alfamax


What are those pictures for?

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Community Expert ,
Jan 04, 2024 Jan 04, 2024

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quoteAs for the "customer experience".

Stock buyers have eyes. There is even zoom options.

Buying stock images is the definition of "what you see is what you get".

If you are buying a vissual asset to use in your work. Well, the whole point is in visual inspection to see if it will fit your needs.

You will always have "Caren" buyers. But they will complain even when they buy a perfect photo shot on phase camera.


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

I see that you never worked on projects where you selected stock assets. As a customer, I can expect that the assets that get offered to me are perfect. It's not my job to check them for errors. And there is no zoom function. Before I licence, I get a size reduced preview. 

 

BTW: alone the search for assets costs money, so if I find tons of irrelevant assets, I lose money, just by sorting out the bad assets.

 

 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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quoteAs for the "customer experience".

Stock buyers have eyes. There is even zoom options.

Buying stock images is the definition of "what you see is what you get".

If you are buying a vissual asset to use in your work. Well, the whole point is in visual inspection to see if it will fit your needs.

You will always have "Caren" buyers. But they will complain even when they buy a perfect photo shot on phase camera.


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

I see that you never worked on projects where you selected stock assets. As a customer, I can expect that the assets that get offered to me are perfect. It's not my job to check them for errors. And there is no zoom function. Before I licence, I get a size reduced preview. 

 

BTW: alone the search for assets costs money, so if I find tons of irrelevant assets, I lose money, just by sorting out the bad assets.

 

 


By @Abambo

@AbamboFrom your comment i see that you simply don't understand the current state of ai image technology.

If you did, you would know that there is not a single AI image from maybe millions approwed that is perfect. They all have flaws, some more some less.

Are you really expecting to get perfect assets from a microstock agency? Not limited to ai images? Well, that's a bit of a stretch.

Or did you tought that there is a "tick box" to select or deselect ai images in search only for potential legal reasons? That the adobe is notifying the buyers about?

Also. You not knowing about the "preview crop" together with the scale slider. Tells me that you don't really have experience on the adobe stock web page.

So my conclusion of you is in form of a question.

What does that violet badge with white star on your profile menas? Together with that "Community Expert" text.

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Community Expert ,
Jan 06, 2024 Jan 06, 2024

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quoteFrom your comment i see that you simply don't understand the current state of ai image technology.

If you did, you would know that there is not a single AI image from maybe millions approwed that is perfect. They all have flaws, some more some less.

If they have flaws, you need to correct them. The millions approved are problematic, as many are really unusable. Customers complain! When customers complain hard enough, then Adobe needs to do something. They are doing something. They refuse assets that are not good enough. That is the reason your assets get refused. End of discussion.

 

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Are you really expecting to get perfect assets from a microstock agency? Not limited to ai images? Well, that's a bit of a stretch.


By @Svetlana28639737zwpi

As a customer to stock, I can expect that the images are good enough for being used. That means that they should follow the same quality standards as my pictures.  Generative AI or not. If you want to submit low-quality assets, you should look for a different service. The advantage of Adobe stock against other stock vendors was always the good quality (even that I've also seen bad quality images here).

 

EG: A customer would like to license a picture to print as a backdrop in her kitchen. She licences an asset. The asset gets refused by the printer because of a low resolution. I get hired to correct that. I look at the asset, and see that it has been badly edited. Blown up at full print size, that would have been awful. It should never have been added here. We tried up to four assets, all exposing problems. The customer lost several $100 of invest for nothing.

 

Stock images need to be correct. If you have artefacts in your pictures, bad lanterns growing out of the trees, the asset should get refused. There are too many bad assets in the database. Do not add a couple of yours.

 

In addition, I am aware of the challenges that generative AI presents. The customer is just not in the mood to buy your bad artwork!

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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