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April 15, 2023
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stock contributor insights

  • April 15, 2023
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hello, 

I would like to request some much needed features as a stock contributor

 

- i would like to know who licensed my image

- what region they are from 

- where my image has been used and purpose of use

 

i feel as contributors we should have some more insights

 

 

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thanks

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jacquelingphoto2017
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 19, 2023

The initial post @shuttr  made is misleading and led us to believe that he's asking for specifics. However, those of us following closely would realise that he's not asking for specifics, but general information. Understanding carefully about this request will help everyone to understand if it is useful or how useful it is. If it will do damage, what damage it will do. The whole argument of "Adobe will never do... "is not for any of us to decide. None of us is in top Administrative position. Adobe can change their model at any time and find it useful to do what we initially thought they would never do. To illustrate I'll tell you a true story.

In my country one bank started offering in-house ABM service whereby customers do everything at the machine. I went to my branch took my bright self to the Manager to suggest that a partition is placed between the banks main section and the section housing the ABM machine to facilitate 24 hours total banking service at the ABM. The response I got was "it will never happen". Today, my suggestion is implemented in the same branch and it now offers 24 hours total banking service indoor at the ABM. You never know what is in the mind of other people. An idea of one person is usually thought by several others, so never say never. It worth the while to try to gather as much details as you can from an idea. You might not use it, but it motivates another that is even better. Now back to the subject.

There is one reply post that @shuttr made that helped me to understand what he's requesting. Too bad @shuttr is focusing so much attention to the negative response that it seem he does not realize that I'm seeking details about the suggestion.

 

 

What is suggested here is not new and is being used on at least one other platform. Surprised! No need to. The screenshot above is proof. The details given include item ID, sales date, the contributor's asset folder, the details as above and sales price. Now we'll look at it's usefulness.

This particular platform has a structure with additional marketplaces that are optional. You can select all monitor what is selling where and either choose to opt out of some or submit to satisfy their needs. Those that are not optional you can use this information to see what category of your portfolio sells in each region and submit more within the category to gain more traction in a particular region that you do not have much sales. This platform also has a needs listing that helps. For those of us that are analytical, this model is useful. Adobe might or might not find it useful in it's current model, but might find the need to consider incorporating it in the future, we just don't know. Therefore, we cannot say "Adobe will never..".

Please note that for people who use files for personal use it is recorded on that platform as such, no detail to cause privacy infringement, or for anyone to go hunting and searching and spamming for personal details. Besides, in terms of seeking personal details from Adobe, The Contributors Agreement can take care of that if that's a concern. In any case currently, searching and finding where on the Internet your images go and are used is not difficult if you want to track them all. 

To @shuttr I suggest when you have an idea state it clear and detailed so that it will be easily understood. Hold on to your idea and do not be afraid to defend it. To the other participants on this thread, do not be quick to debate (oppose). Ask questions. It is only with questions that you can draw out people. Opposing is only going to lock down people. Don't be quick to lock down others even if you disagree. If you disagree, the better thing to do is to ask a question.

I made this post because this thread is becoming long, drawn out and more and more non-productive and negative. I do hope this will put everything to rest.

Best wishes

Jacquelin

shuttrAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 19, 2023

thanks for your thoughts and feedback.  i appreciate it . the information from your example is all i would really want. 

 

jacquelingphoto2017
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 19, 2023

You are welcome @shuttr .

It was the post at https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock-contributors-discussions/stock-contributor-insights/m-p/13732364#M58992 that I realized what you were asking for. In fact it's not really business name, but business category that would be more appropriate. That is why I asked you to give details to see where I could take it. But then the thread turn out the way it does. 

In any case we are supposed to be monitored by staff members so all is not lost.

Best wishes

Jacquelin 

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 16, 2023
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- i would like to know who licensed my image


By @shuttr

There is no need to know that. Indeed, there is a huge privacy concern in this. If you want to know who licences your assets, you need to leave all stock providers and build your own site.

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- what region they are from


By @shuttr

Shutterstock has that. That feature is of no practical use for me.

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- where my image has been used and purpose of use


By @shuttr

That's probably a trade secret of the buyer, and it's even unknown to Adobe.

 

If the assets are used on websites, you can reverse search the asset. Else, there is not much that you can do. I'm still waiting to see one of my pictures on a billboard or in a newspaper used for an advert.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 16, 2023
quoteI'm still waiting to see one of my pictures on a billboard or in a newspaper used for an advert.

By @Abambo

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You & me both.  🙂

That'll be the day!

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
Nancy OShea
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 15, 2023

Adobe Stock customer and contributor information is not public. It's private for a reason.  Adobe Stock has a legal obligation to protect user's privacy.  It's not up for debate.

 

As a contributor, your only concern is creating quality assets that appeal to customers.  You don't need to know who the customers are or where they live.  That's NOYB.

 

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
shuttrAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 17, 2023

thats silly  - theres no accountability 

jane-e
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 17, 2023

thats silly  - theres no accountability 

By @shuttr

 

When I purchase an item in a store, the manufacturer does not know who I am (unless I register it). The store knows unless I pay cash, but they do not report the buyer information of every sale to the manufacturer. What is the difference here?

 

Jane

 

jacquelingphoto2017
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 15, 2023

Hi @shuttr 

Why do you consider these features a necessity? 

What is the advantage?

Best wishes

Jacquelin

shuttrAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 17, 2023

well if your selling more photos in a certain region then maybe you can cater to that region. also its nice to know that a "license" is being used properly because from what im hearing here they don't follow up if they license is misused. accountability and insights on how to grow your stock is the advantage here.

jacquelingphoto2017
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 17, 2023

Hi @shuttr,

At the top of your Adobe Contributor page there is a tab labeled "Insight". You will find what sells most at Adobe on those pages so you can utilize that information to cater for the international markets.

What would you do if you identify 1000 customers across the globe that you consider in your opinion misuse your files?

 

Please note that what you hear here, except there's a link to an identifiable Adobe post or there's an Adobe badge to identify the person as a staff member, is the opinion of fellow contributors and other non-staff personnel who volunteer to monitor these pages who don't know Adobe business.

Best wishes

Jacquelin

 

George_F
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 15, 2023

To add to what @Jill_C @ said, you can also reverse search your images to see if any are being used "in the wild".  I find mine every so often and it's neat to see how they are being used.

 

I agree with @Test Screen Name , I highly doubt Adobe keeps tabs on how images are used after purchasing licenses.  A few other sites show locations of purchases, but I've never found it particularly useful to have that info.  There are many ways for this information to be inaccurate.

 

As an example:  For some local blogs I've found my images in, the images have been purchased in some very unlikely places.  Someone could be a full time traveler who also blogs.  I also suspect some blog posts are outsourced.

 

I don't worry too much about misuse, as everything that I've found so far is both contractually allowed and what I'd consider a fair use for compensation received.  That doesn't mean there isn't a chance someone may misuse an asset, but that's part of what we sign up for.  I certainly don't lose any sleep over it!

 

Cheers!

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer
Legend
April 15, 2023

Adobe do know the first two - but probably don't collate it - but they have no idea at all of the usage of the image. Telling you who licensed it personally would have curious privacy issues. It also has the potential that contributors spam licensees, which would be a very bad thing  - so that's not going to happen. Stock customers do not have to report usage, and in most cases don't have to attribute either. It would need a fundamental change to the stock customer license, and I doubt Adobe would see any benefit to Adobe for this. 

Jill_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 15, 2023

That's probably not going to happen. What would you do with that information if it were available? 

Some Buyers do provide attribution when they use an image, so just Google your name and "Adobe Stock".

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
shuttrAuthor
Participating Frequently
April 17, 2023

as people contributing to the community and making money for adobe . i would like as much info on where my images are going as possible. it seems only good business to me.   more info is valuable to creators im sure adobe knows this.