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December 17, 2016
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I need a new computer, one that can handle several Adobe products open at the same time

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I need a new computer and I need some advice about what to get in a computer. Please do not reply if you’re not familiar any of these products and the computer resources they use.

I have had some friends say that it is all in the graphics processor you get and others says its computer processor and memory. I need someone that really knows what they’re talking about and uses these programs to offer advice.

First off, I do not want and Apple, I want a PC and I want Windows 7 professional.

I need a computer that will handle running these products, Adobe photoshop, Illistrator, Indesign, Acrobat, word, and excel. I will have three or four of these products open at the same time. I need a machine that will be able to handle a majority of these products open at the same time and not be slow or sluggish. I would rather it be a laptop so that I can travel with it but I might consider a desktop.

I currently have a laptop that works with this but when I get into some real intensive work on Photshop or Indesign it really starts getting very sluggish. Here are my current specs.

Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz = Processor

16.0 GB (15.9 GB usable) = Installed memory

64-bit Operating System

Can someone that is very familiar with this, please offer advice on what I need to get?

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    KShinabery212
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    Community Expert
    February 21, 2017

    So here is an example of me running Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Character Animator and Adobe Video Presenter Express all at the same time on a Wacom Cintiq Companion 2.  Also note... I was running its built-in webcam along with my c922 Logitech webcam and Blue Snowball mic.

    https://kennshinabery.myportfolio.com/adobe-character-animator-overwatchs-winston

    In fact, it is better to have Illustrator running at the same time as Character Animator... because as you change your Illustrator file, the puppet in Character Animator changes.

    So if the Wacom Cintiq Companion 2 can handle more than one piece of software... then I  know the Wacom MobileStudio Pro can really handle multiple programs as it is even more powerful.

    Let's connect on LinkedIn. https://www.linkedin.com/in/kshinabery/
    Attroll
    AttrollAuthor
    Inspiring
    January 26, 2018

    I thought I would post a follow-up on the outcome of this thread and my new computer.

    I took the plunge last January and had a company build a computer for me.

    Everyone had their ideas and opinions on what would work. I went above and beyond what everyone told me and the computer still did not live up to expectations.

    The computer I had built does work a heck of a lot better than the one I was using but it does not live up to my expectations.

    I wanted a computer that would handle large files in InDesign and get instant responses when I made changes to my project. It does not do this.

    Let me explain what I got for a computer.

    Intel Core i7 Quad-core 3.40 GHz32 GB memory

    525 GB Solid state drive

    GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Graphics Card – 1.29 GHz Core – 1.39 GHz Boost Clock – 4 GB GDDR5

    Is there something wrong with this setup that will not let me handle large files in Adobe?

    Erik Lord
    Inspiring
    January 26, 2018

    I don't think there's anything 'wrong'. That's a beefy setup, for sure.

    Only thing I can suggest is adding a second drive.

    With one drive, you have the OS, the applications, and the 'scratch disk' all accessing that drive as needed.

    SSD is fast, but the bus can only handle what it can handle.

    So a second drive might help. One drive for the OS and application, one drive for the scratch - i think that would be best.

    It has been a long time, however, since I've built a higher-end custom rig

    Randy Hufford
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    December 26, 2016

    I just did research and built a new system. I found these guys that are a real blessing check them out and call them.

    https://www.pugetsystems.com/

    You can call them and discuss all of these questions and they will answer in detail. (888) PUGET-PC (784-3872)

    I would also have to encourage you to support Adobe with their monthly subscription. As far as I am concerned Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom is what has made photography where it is today. To have access to all of the newest tools and know you are supporting the leader of our industry is a good thing. Please consider for only $9.95 per month to support more research and development of all of the new tools that we now have. Just the one tool of content aware makes it worth it!

    kglad
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    December 28, 2016

    i can vouch for pugetsystems, too.  i purchased a computer from them several months ago and it was a great experience.

    i told them what i wanted and they built the system.  i got exactly what i wanted with no crap-ware (<cough>dell</cough>) and at a great price.

    here's my review (k.g.) along with a couple of dozen others, Puget Systems - 33 Photos & 27 Reviews - Computers - 2707 W Valley Hwy N, Auburn, WA - Phone Number - Yelp

    Nancy OShea
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    December 17, 2016

    There is no one size fits all answer here.  It all depends on which apps you use and how you use them.

    System requirements | Adobe Creative Cloud

    Heavy graphics apps like Photoshop and InDesign  require more resources than say Dreamweaver or Acrobat.  And if you do a lot of heavy lifting with 3-D graphics, filters, multiple layers and effects, you'll need a good deal more than the minimum requirements.

    Generally speaking, buy the best machine you can afford.  A fast chip, a rugged desktop with plenty of memory -- physical and RAM to handle all the tasks you will be throwing at it.  A good graphics card & the more RAM you have, the better.

    I would stay away from 4k and 5k displays.  Adobe support for ultra Hi-DPI screens is not quite there yet.   You probably won't like what you see.

    IMO, Windows PCs give you a lot more bang for your buck than Apple . But you may have a hard time finding  one that doesn't come with Windows 10 already installed on it.   At least that was my experience a year ago when I bought my current system.   BTW, I'm very happy with Win10.

    Happy shopping!

    Nancy

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Attroll
    AttrollAuthor
    Inspiring
    December 22, 2016

    I want to thank everyone for three feedback and inputs on this. I am having a system built for me. Here is what it will have, plus a few more things.

    Processor = i5 6600

    32 GB RAM

    525 GB Solid State Drive

    GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Graphics Card 1.29 GHz Core 1.39 GHz Boost Clock – 4 GB GDDR5

    Attroll
    AttrollAuthor
    Inspiring
    December 23, 2016

    Attroll wrote:

    Thank you Ussnorway.

    I have decided to go with Windows 10 so from what I read the solid state drive should be fine, I hope.

    I was told that the i5 is just as good as the i7. I read that a couple of places. Where did you get your information about the i5 chip not rendering well? I would like to know now so I can change the order in the morning if I need to.

    Define "just as good"

    Your new i5 will be a 6th generation chip (i.e, one back from the current) so lets look at the other two compatible chips in that generation. The recommended price difference between them is about $200 (shop around for real prices because many shops will have old stock they are willing to discount) and they draw about the same power 51w vs 65w but its not a laptop anymore so power isn't a major issue now

    intel stats = ARK | Compare Intel® Products

    In laymans terms a core is the brain of the chip and determines how fast it can do mathematical functions like counting

    A thread is how many "things" it can do at the same time so two threads = two things at once and 4 = 4 (assuming ram is free to use) so a chip with more threads will be better at multitasking than a chip with less threads because that second chip has to stop what it was doing or wait until the first task is done before starting another

    The i7 is fastest but of course you would expect that and it has twice as many threads so scenarios that involve multitasking are faster with the i7 and not just because it has a slightly higher overall speed i.e, the i7 can do a heavy cpu task and still manage to "walk along" because it doesn't have to stop as much.

    As a real world scenario lets say you play around with Adobe Felix to make a ball... The default model has three parts with a colour and some transparency so you set these then ask your system to rendor this image as 1024 X 768 (high);

    My i7 chip will rendor this image in about half the time as it takes your i5 (even thou you have more ram) so if it takes me 2 hours then it will take you 4 hours... Now this is 'best case' and assumes we don't do any other multitasking (emails, play music etc) and just allow the system to complete the rendor task while we eat dinner... Its perhaps worth noting that the nature of rendoring is such that the bulk of the image will be in the first half so 1 hour for me and 2 hours for you will give us an image that is at least 80-90% done or "good enough".

    Stepping away from Adobe we look at the other major multitasking scenario witch is virtualization. You should opt for the pro version of windows 8.1 or 10 because that gives you the FREE hyper-v and then your windows desktop can have a V-windows 7 (Linux or even server) running inside it "at the same time" as the main operating system chugs along.

    My i3 laptop once did a PXE (pronounced pixie) boot demo where I had a V-server 12r2 installing V-windows 7 with in hyper-v whist we watched from the main operating system... Your i5 would just about manage to run the server or the w7 along with its native system but will scream to a halt before adding the 3rd despite appearing to have the same number of threads as my i3 because all i5 lack the hyper-threading technology.

    Perhaps you only need to rendor 3d images once in a blue moon and never want a windows 7 | Linux (to say test a game) so then the i5 is "just as good" and you save about 50-100 dollars by stepping down.


    Thank you for the reply. Which i7 chip do you recommend that I get then? I don't want to spend a lot of money but I want something good.