Jacob Bugge
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Jacob Bugge
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‎Jan 24, 2025
01:59 AM
For my part you are welcome, Matu.
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‎Jan 23, 2025
03:06 PM
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‎Jan 23, 2025
03:06 PM
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I agree Hans-Jürgen; in my experience the best ways to hide changes are to make large inconspicuous ones hidden in plain sight, or to change an important but subtle detail.
https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/something-for-the-weekend-part-91-can-t-see-the-wood-for-the-trees/m-p/11101416#M327772
https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/something-for-the-weekend-part-54-lifestyle/m-p/10237304#M217291
Those two old SFTW threads are really worth reading in full; in the latter one, Ged is disguised as Guest owing to some unfortunate forum error.
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‎Jan 23, 2025
02:01 PM
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Matu,
When I first read your question, I noticed that your original path and the shortened end paths had Round Cap and thereby rounded ends, which is more complicated to obtain than a simple cutoff corresponding to Butt Cap.
It is doable, and I looked into fully editable/reversible ways to do it, but then I had some urgent tasks, and left the thread until now.
Normally the simpler cutoff is used, and it also makes the text appear as an integral part of the arrow path, rather than text between two paths, only one being an arrow path.
You could also choose Butt Cap instead of Round Cap for the arrow path with full consistency.
I can see that Kurt has offered a solution easy to use.
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‎Jan 22, 2025
03:18 PM
Thank you very much, Dave.
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‎Jan 22, 2025
12:49 PM
I see them too, Dave.
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‎Jan 22, 2025
10:23 AM
I can see that Fulling Manor has finally been completed after centuries of considerations, preparations, and hard work, Dean.
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‎Jan 22, 2025
05:20 AM
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‎Jan 22, 2025
05:20 AM
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Whence came she, I wonder.
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‎Jan 21, 2025
03:40 PM
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‎Jan 21, 2025
03:40 PM
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Click to get closer, Click again to get closer still
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‎Jan 19, 2025
07:29 AM
Heart or heartbreaking or both, I wonder.
Hopefully, this tree will keep surviving.
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‎Jan 18, 2025
03:57 PM
Thank you for your good wishes, Kurt.
I had only known about the Hundstage, but it seems that the other two might bring Schnee Stille rather than Katzenjammer, or much worse, Gebell von Hunden.
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‎Jan 18, 2025
03:39 PM
Ah, thank you for sharing, Hans-Jürgen.
I was unaware of that consequence of the recent change.
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‎Jan 18, 2025
11:54 AM
Amicoe, I quite understand your being dissatisfied with the traced an image.
No matter the resolution, I believe the gan image shows that redrawing is the right way, especially for something like a logo; and I doubt whether it takes longer than to (try to) repair a traced image.
Apart from everything else, the redrawing of an old(er) logo may also give the opportunity of possible improvement/rethinking, maybe making yous (or at least you) even happier and the logo even better.
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‎Jan 18, 2025
11:03 AM
Amikoe, may I ask how the time to create the logo compares to the time you think you would need to make the Image Trace version tolerable (if at all possible)?
Which (wrong) image are you referring to?
The ability to edit posts, after clicking the More button under the susmitted post, requires a certain level of forum participation.
I am unsure which, but at least one of our friends knows. @pixxxelschubser ?
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‎Jan 18, 2025
09:39 AM
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‎Jan 18, 2025
09:39 AM
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Now that is real craftmanship, Franck.
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‎Jan 18, 2025
03:27 AM
Amikoe,
I am pleased to see that you chose the cleaner way of redrawing with the use of stroked paths, and I believe it has been happier.
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‎Jan 18, 2025
03:17 AM
Indeed, Kurt.
One of my all times favourites is Katzenjammer.
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‎Jan 18, 2025
03:12 AM
You are welcome, cl.
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‎Jan 17, 2025
03:25 PM
cl,
As I (mis)understand it, you have a first object at some (maybe unknown) place in the stacking order (Stapelreihenfolge) and you wish to place it immediately above or beneath a second object at another (maybe unknown) place in the stacking order (Stapelreihenfolge).
In that case you can with no need to know the places in the stacking order (Stapelreihenfolge), and using the (normal) Selection Tool:
1) Select the first object (just click it) and use Ctrl/Cmd+X (hold Ctrl or Cmd and pres X) to cut it from its place in the stacking order;
2) Select the second object (just click it) and:
2A) Use Ctrl/Cmd+F to place the first object immediately above the second object in the stacking order, or
2B) Use Ctrl/Cmd+B to place the first object immediately beneath the second object in the stacking order.
To make sure that it works when doing it for the first time, you can select both objects and then scroll through the stacking order (Stapelreihenfolge) until you find them and see that they are together in the right order.
I believe this is what Monika meant with the answer in the first post (corresponding to 2B):
"Naja, dann wählst Du das Objekt davor aus und fügst dahinter ein."
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‎Jan 16, 2025
03:03 PM
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Garbageware,
In addition to what Monika said, you can make the solution more flexible/versatile by setting the Opacity of the New Stroke beneath the text to 0% in the Transparency palette, then select both the Mixer and the rest and Ctrl+G to Group them, then also in the Transparency palette tick the Knockout Group box so that/until the tick mark is full and the New Stroke knocks out, in other words hides, the text parts beneath it so the background colour shows through.
With this, you can freely change the background colour and still have the knockout instead of your having to change the stroke colour to match the new one (each time).
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‎Jan 16, 2025
01:59 PM
Amikoe,
I believe it is safe to say that (at least/especially) for artwork such as logos it is generally recommended to redraw rather than try to work directly with Image Tracing, hard to become happy with and hard to avoid much time use/waste to get it tolerable or even satisfactory.
The time needed for redrawing obviously depends on the actual shapes/paths, but the choice of ways and tools can be more important.
Maybe you can show something corresponding to troublesome parts without revealing anything of the logo.
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‎Jan 16, 2025
01:38 PM
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‎Jan 16, 2025
01:38 PM
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The SFTW Saw Gear, soon to be found by search
Click to get closer, Click again to get closer still
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‎Jan 16, 2025
11:34 AM
Amikoe,
Have yous considered cleaner ways such as redrawing on top of the locked JPEG and aided by the actual Avant Garde font oe simply starting over based on the Avant Garde font as in the original, either way maybe using a combination of new stroked paths and new/existing filled paths as covenient, until the final outlining (of each part)?
That might make yous (or at least you) happier and the logo better, hopefully even in a shorter time.
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‎Jan 16, 2025
03:45 AM
You are welcome, Loise, and thank you for sharing.
Normally, it is a rare issue, but good to remember and consider if something strange occurs consistently as you have seen here.
Preference corruption has been a recurring subject for decades, much more often in the old days where some had them frequently, others occasionally or rarely, yet others never, the differences strangely sometimes seeming to depend on other things like computer OS.
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‎Jan 16, 2025
01:52 AM
Loise,
Seen from another possible side:
There are different kinds of corruption, some temporary.
In the hope of temporary ones, you can try to close down and reopen the application, then the application and the computer (on rare occasions in the past it has been several times but hardly now).
One is a corruption of a document; you can see whether the error also occurs in a new document; if not, you can start over in that or try to copy the artwork from the ailing one, in one go or in parts and see how much you can rescue.
Another one is preference corruption; you can reset your preferences; you can reset the preferences as described in the following link.
If you have customized settings that you wish to keep, first create a backup of these setting as described.
https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/troubleshoot-preference-issues.html
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‎Jan 16, 2025
01:43 AM
Loise,
What happens if you set the keyboard increment to 1 mm and move once at a time with the arrow key?
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‎Jan 15, 2025
12:51 PM
Vysion,
You can do it in an old crude way and see everything as you go, with the following steps, Smart Guides still being your friends:
1) Direct Select the Anchor Point as in your image;
2) With the Line Segment Tool ClickDrag from the Handle into the Anchor to create a guide line;
3) Click the Scale Tool, then Alt/OptionClick the end of the guide line (to scale from there), then set the Uniform Scale suffiently high to extend the guide line;
4) Direct Select the path segment to reveal the Handle, then ClickDrag the Handle along the guide line as desired and see the path change;
5) Delete the guide line 3), or hide it if you may need to use it again.
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‎Jan 15, 2025
03:53 AM
Arturo,
Fundamentally, the range of colours is narrower in (plain) CMYK than in RGB, (especially) including brighter/more stunning colours.
You can see a bit about the fundamental differences,
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rgb+vs+cmyk+gamut&t=ftsa&atb=v320-1&ia=web
If you wish consistent colours, the safe way, as recommended in the old days, is to start out with CMYK colours.
But maybe things have moved so much into the bright(er) world of (RGB) screens that the appearance of (plain CMYK) print has a dwindling importance, so that many will settle for a certain resemblance, maybe using extended gamut printing for more important prints.
You can read a bit about extended gamut printing,
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=extended+gamut+printing&t=ftsa&atb=v320-1&ia=web
Edit: And what Ton said while I was still at it.
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‎Jan 15, 2025
01:52 AM
Danny,
Further to your original considerations, about this,
"so far I haven't found a way of automating it in a way that is clean and doesn't require me manually constructing each curve"
I believe the Blend attempt seems to show that you would have to reconstruct the (hopefully only two) original curves to enable a Blend solution, which might be possible by redrawing/recreating (hopefully either of) the shapes with different Anchor Points to obtain the same appearance (closely enough) , and then use a Blend.
This would be different to an automated way, but less so than manually constructing each intermediate curve.
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‎Jan 14, 2025
02:45 PM
Danny,
Sigmoid curves is a term covering fundamentally different shapes with a rotational symmetry with an upper right and lower left part on either side of an origin, the one in your lower screenshot being just one (logistic).
The curved in the desired shape in the upper left screenshot seems to be a transition of portions of the upper left parts of what looks like fundamentally different ones, further with origins at different horizontal positions.
Therefore I am afraid we are looking at something different to just "increasingly flattened sigmoid curves."
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‎Jan 10, 2025
04:35 PM
Ashraful,
Dave custom built it for SFTW54.
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