JP Hess
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JP Hess
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‎May 28, 2013
10:48 AM
Whenever this discussion comes up, proponents speak in broad generalities. They say there is a big demand for Lightroom running under linux. OK, show some numbers that would convince Adobe that it really is worth their time and expense and increased staff to support another OS. This isn't a question of how many linux users there are, but rather how many Lightroom users really want/need linux. Adobe is currently cutting support for older Windows and Mac operating systems that is (probably) causing greater displeasure among users.
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‎May 19, 2013
05:00 PM
Yep, it sure did. Thanks for the explanation.
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‎May 19, 2013
08:30 AM
I have been thinking about your answer, Rob. Please explain a little more in detail. How do you reduce the resolution? I'm not quite grasping your answer.
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‎May 17, 2013
11:24 AM
I thought about responding the other day, but decided my remarks wouldn't help you. And they still won't because I'm going to give you my personal opinion about lossy DNG. I don't think it is intended for your master "important" images. I watched a video on Adobe.tv about this, and the example that was given was, suppose you have taken pictures at a wedding. Perhaps you have 2000-3000 images, 500 of which are keepers that are really good. You don't want to get rid of the other bunch but want to save space. So those would be the images that you would convert to lossy DNG. I mean, let's be realistic about this. You can't throw away data and hope to still have full raw quality. That isn't the idea behind the format. Personally, I think converting to DNG of any sort as a workflow routine is frivolous and unwise. I know a lot of people routinely download and convert, and then they don't have copies of their original raw images. Yes, I know, the DNG files contain all the original raw image data. But not all software will read those DNG files. For example, I use Nikon cameras. The cameras shipped with ViewNX 2. It's not a very useful program, but has a couple of features that I like to use once in a while. But it won't open the DNG files. And if I have converted and then discarded the original NEF files, I can't use the software. With my cameras there is only a 15-20% savings in space. The tutorial I watched indicated that the lossy DNG files would load in Lightroom up to 8 times faster. I haven't used a stopwatch, but if anything the DNG files take longer to load than the original NEF files. The only benefit I see to converting to DNG is if I have a file from a camera for which I don't have native support because my software is older or not up-to-date. I know this hasn't helped you. But maybe it will stimulate some conversation and you'll get a more enlightening opinion from someone else.
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‎Mar 17, 2013
04:06 PM
I agree with everything you say about shooting raw. My only thought is that the camera is new and you aren't familiar with it. Every camera that I have had has performed just a little bit differently. Shooting JPEG for the first little while and devoting time to getting the JPEG right will only assure you will get the most out of your raw images. It's just a thought, but certainly not something to try if you're not inclined to do so. I don't share JPEG hardly ever. In fact I seldom shoot a combination of JPEG/raw. I don't like the limitations imposed from shooting JPEG. But, as I have explained, it could prove to be helpful as a beginning step to "really" understanding your camera.
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‎Mar 17, 2013
09:11 AM
While you are waiting for support from Adobe, you could actually shoot JPEG images to get yourself accustomed to how the camera reacts. I mean, really, JPEG images won't contaminate the camera. If you want to experiment with raw images in the meantime, ViewNX will give you some basic tools that you can experiment with. Unfortunately, everyone who purchases new technology has to wait for that support. You are not the first, nor will you be the last to face this problem. It is a given that Adobe will eventually support your new camera. You just have to wait like everyone else has had to wait in the past.
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‎Mar 05, 2013
12:39 PM
You don't really "convert" the files to JPEG. Those raw files are your master images that you continually maintain in Lightroom. When you need a JPEG copy you use the export function in Lightroom to export a JPEG copy that includes all of the adjustments that you have made in Lightroom.
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‎Feb 11, 2013
08:00 AM
If you install from the disk the first thing you'll be prompted to do when you start Lightroom is to update your program. Adobe doesn't release new packages every time the version is updated. So you will get 4.0 in the package, and you'll be prompted to update to version 4.3 immediately. Bypass that step by downloading the trial version, which is the full version of Lightroom, and then follow the prompts to enter your serial number. Because I qualify for the academic discount, I have purchased boxed versions of Lightroom 2, 3, and 4. And I have never yet used the installation disk to install the program. I have bought the package just to get the serial number.
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‎Feb 07, 2013
07:44 PM
Just to make sure we are all on the same page, when you click on the "About DNG Converter" button in the bottom left-hand corner, what version does the dialogue say you are using?
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‎Feb 02, 2013
01:59 PM
I don't know if you mistyped or if you really meant PNG. But converting to DNG is worth considering if you don't want to do any software updating right now. You would still have all the original raw data, but in a new file container, and you would have that file in addition to your original raw file. I usually don't advocate using the DNG converter, except for situations like you are in where your ACR will not support your newer camera. In that case I think it is well worth while. Of course, a better choice would be to either upgrade your Photoshop or else consider getting Lightroom. The raw conversion process version is greatly improved and well worth the investment.
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‎Jan 26, 2013
10:26 AM
1 Upvote
In the Develop module, press the "\" key. This will toggle a before/after review for you to evaluate.
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‎Dec 23, 2012
10:06 AM
On my printer, the color space is on the second tab of the printer dialog that you access from Lightroom with the Page Setup button in the lower left corner of the print module. I have set mine to Adobe RGB, and it matches Lightroom quite well. So it's a printer setting, not a Lightroom setting.
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‎Dec 22, 2012
09:52 AM
I use an HP Officejet 7000 wide format printer. I know, it isn't a photo printer. But it does alright for me. There are no profiles, but in the printer driver I can choose Adobe RGB or Colorsmart RGB. I have been using Adobe RGB and it matches up really quite well with what I see on the monitor. And I'm using that option with Lightroom set to let the printer manage the color. It seems that HP doesn't provide ICC profiles for their printers. If that is what you're looking for then you'll probably have to go to Canon or Epson.
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‎Dec 06, 2012
10:55 AM
You might be right, but I'm not experiencing any of the other problems that people complain about either. Sorry to barge on this conversation. I will step out now.
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‎Dec 06, 2012
10:38 AM
Here is what I don't understand about this whole performance issue. I have used Lightroom on four different computers, two of them were 32 bit and two of them are 64 bit. I will admit that performance was a little sluggish on the 32 bit computers, but it wasn't really intolerable. All of the computers have been pretty much what you would call "plain vanilla" computers; no high-end graphics cards, no SSD drives, all just basically off the shelf computers. My new Windows 7 64 bit computer is just using integrated video, 8 GB Ram, but other than that there is really nothing out of the ordinary (if you can call that out of the ordinary). This new computer has no problems whatsoever with Lightroom. New images are downloaded and previews are built so quickly that I hardly even see the progress bar. I keep expecting to encounter the problems a lot of others seem to be having, but I just haven't seen it.
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‎Dec 06, 2012
08:04 AM
I don't know what to say, either. You won't answer the question. So I will ask it one more time. If you can't or won't answer that question then there isn't any sense in continuing this discussion. What do you expect to change, as far as quality is concerned, by simply changing the resolution setting? It seems to me that neither you nor your users or clients fully understand resolution, even though you think you do.
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‎Dec 06, 2012
07:42 AM
If you export the image and don't resize it, you'll get a full sized image, the same dimensions as the original. The only way you can change the quality of that image is to specify the quality slider, which controls the amount of compression that is applied to the JPEG image (assuming you are exporting JPEG images). Regardless of what resolution setting you choose, it will not affect the quality of the image in any way. As an example, take an image that is 4000x6000 pixels. What do you expect to be different, as far as quality is concerned, if you set the resolution at 240, 300, 360, 600 PPI? The image will still be the same size. So where are you going to get a difference in image quality based on the resolution setting?
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‎Dec 05, 2012
03:01 PM
I wish you luck. But personally I think you are going about it all wrong. I'm not even going to try to tell you how to do what you want to do. When I work on scanned images, I set the resolution of the scan according to the size of the image, just as you do. But when I export copies I usually specify the length of the long edge and specify a standard resolution, and then I let it go at that. After all, it is just a copy. And your original images are still left intact in Lightroom in their original condition. I think you are just making a lot of unnecessary work for yourself.
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‎Dec 05, 2012
01:18 PM
The resolution setting is basically meaningless. For instance, let's just say that you have an image that is 1000 x 1000 pixels. It doesn't matter whether the resolution is set at 72, or 200, or 300, or 600 PPI. The image will still be 1000 x 1000 pixels. The only thing that changes is how big the image will be at any given resolution. So if you are exporting without the resize option then you are exporting full sized copies of your images. The only time you even need to concern yourself with the PPI setting is if you want to give an indication to someone else of what your intended use for the image might be. The setting has no effect on the quality of the image.
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‎Nov 19, 2012
08:22 AM
3 Upvotes
After you move the images to the new drive, if you did it using Windows Explorer or Finder, the next time you open Lightroom the folders panel in the library will have a question mark on the folder containing our images. This indicates that Lightroom cannot find the images in that location. Right click on that folder, and one of your options will be to find missing folders. There will be a browse button. Click on that button and find the folder on your new drive and click on it. That will synchronize everything and you can continue with your work.
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‎Oct 11, 2012
08:02 AM
I have to tell you that you are just spinning your wheels and getting nowhere. Nikon doesn't recognize DNG, doesn't shoot DNG, doesn't create DNG, isn't interested in DNG. Nikon wants you to purchase and use Capture NX2. Their software has a loyal following. I have tried it but wasn't impressed with it. I guess I have been using Adobe products for so long that it's just too difficult to change. There are other software options to consider. But the problem is, regardless of your opinion of those other products, nobody has been able to rival the Adobe Products. I know, some of you are convinced that something else is far better than Photoshop, ACR, or Lightroom. And you can prove it. But the user base and track record says something completely different. If you purchase a new camera with a bigger sensor, new features, and spend in some instances thousands of dollars for that new camera, doesn't it make sense that you should expect to pay a fraction of that price for new software that can fully support that camera? It seems to me that what some of you are trying to do is kind of like buying a new high performance sports car, and then to save a little money deciding to run recycled engine oil in it.
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‎Oct 10, 2012
07:53 AM
You can install the Nikon software if you want, but I can tell you that there will be no support for DNG. There are only a handful of companies that natively support the format. The only one that I am aware of for sure is Pentax. Yes, I know there are others. But I just haven't paid close enough attention to know which ones they are. Adobe must provide support for every new camera introduced that shoots raw images because of this territorial attitude displayed by the camera manufacturers. I suspect this will change some day, but at the present time we (the consumers) are the ones who are being victimized. The only thing we could do is not purchase the new cameras. But as soon as a new one is announced countless consumers scramble to get them. And Adobe gets the blame for not supporting them soon enough.
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‎Oct 09, 2012
09:34 AM
New users of Photoshop are often caught off guard when suddenly they find that the new camera they just purchased is not supported for raw development. Sorry people, but technology changes. Why did you purchase a new camera, better quality, more megapixels, better burst shooting, whatever? It has always been Adobe's policy to discontinue support for older versions of their software. If you purchase a new camera for new features and better quality images, then you should expect to purchase new software that will accommodate all of that new technology. It's fun to complain, and blame Adobe, and pout. But it gets old, and annoying, and just isn't appropriate. I know, the complainers will keep this thread going because they think they are picked on or discriminated against, and they don't think it's fair. There is the DNG converter! IT'S FREE! It is a valid choice. Some complain that they don't want to use the DNG converter because it is an extra step that they don't want to be "forced" to use. There are just as many (probably more) people who routinely, automatically convert to DNG because they prefer the format. It really is time to put this little pouting session to rest. It's not going to change anything.
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‎Sep 24, 2012
07:47 AM
Please, don't try to go down this road. It has been beaten to death in this forum. Your frustration is noted, but it's not going to change Adobe policy and program development. Your choices are to upgrade or to use the free DNG converter. Those are the answers. And in spite of your frustration about Adobe policy, it isn't going to change.
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‎Sep 23, 2012
10:25 AM
What Noel said about the new Camera Raw is indisputable. Like you, I was convinced that I could stay with CS5 and be satisfied. After all, I have older camera models (Nikon D40 and D90), and they were fully supported in CS5. But the new Camera Raw is so far advanced and superior to previous versions that it is definitely well worth the price of the upgrade to have it. You purchased a nice camera. You would make a good choice to have software that will maximize your camera's potential.
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‎Sep 21, 2012
01:31 PM
I'm not a Mac user, so I have never used iPhoto. Assuming that iPhoto puts your images in a folder somewhere on your hard drive (which only seems logical to me), from Lightroom activate the import dialog and browse to that folder and import the images from where they are located. You need to understand that Lightroom isn't going to move them. The import process simply puts information about those files in your catalog so that it can store information about the images and track the changes that you make. So, if you know where iPhoto is storing your images, browse to that location and import them. Unless, of course, there's something about iPhoto that I don't know (which is highly possible).
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‎Sep 21, 2012
01:25 PM
I had that same argument until I finally broke down and purchased Photoshop CS6. It really does have a lot of new features that I'm finding that I enjoy using with my photography. I have been spending time on Lynda.com going through a lot of tutorials. There are features that I haven't used, and new features that I find really enhance what I'm doing. In my opinion the upgrade is worth it if it doesn't hit your pocketbook too hard. As long as the camera manufacturers insist on using these proprietary raw file formats we will be faced with this problem of updating the software. There's just no way around it. The trouble is that the cameras sell, the people aren't voicing their frustration to the right place. The camera companies have got us by the throat, and we seem to be willing to just sit there and take it. The DNG converter does a good job. It's free and simple to use as long as you remember one little point. When you browse for a location using the converter, only choose the folder. If you open the folder that contains your raw files then the converter will tell you there are no files to convert. It is FOLDER based, not individual file-based.
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‎Sep 21, 2012
12:06 PM
Your camera was not added until version 7.1, which is only compatible with Photoshop CS6. If you don't want to upgrade then you can download the DNG converter version 7.1 and convert your files to DNG (Digital negative) format, and then those will open with the Camera Raw that you have now.
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‎Sep 13, 2012
07:53 PM
3 Upvotes
The OP still doesn't understand the whole concept of what Lightroom is doing. Every raw image includes a JPEG preview. Lightroom displays that preview when it first loads the raw image. That JPEG image has been modified by different camera settings. The camera is what modified the file. Lightroom ignores those camera settings and builds a preview of the "raw" data captured by the camera. Again, your camera is what applied the settings to that JPEG preview. In my opinion, the first thing to do when starting to use Lightroom is to adjust one of your images so that it looks right. Then, set those settings as the default settings for your camera. Those settings will then be applied whenever new images are imported into Lightroom. Of course, there will be certain situations where you will need different settings for different lighting situations. To accommodate those situations you can create presets. The people who have tried to explain what is happening to your images are not misunderstanding the situation. You are misunderstanding what must be done to make Lightroom work for you rather than you having to change everything that Lightroom does. Take the time to create your own set of defaults. Then you will be much happier with the way Lightroom works for you. If you don't want to do that then you are going to have to do a lot of unnecessary corrections.
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‎Aug 29, 2012
12:39 PM
You can call it prejudice if you like. But it seems that camera matching profiles are only provided for Canon and Nikon cameras. That might be a few others, but those two brands are the ones that have the most profiles. I don't know how others are finding it, but with my Nikon cameras I find that I most often use the Adobe standard profile anyway. In your situation, if you want additional profiles then you will need to download the DNG profile creator and create your own. Considering the abundance of new cameras being introduced by so many different companies, it seems that Adobe has concentrated their efforts on the most popular brands. Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying other brands are inferior. It's simply a matter of record of which ones are the most popular.
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