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February 22, 2009
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Go to Jive's own forum. What do you like and dislike?

  • February 22, 2009
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Have a look at Jivesoftware's own Clearspace (that's the name of the proposed new forum software here) support forum. You might even want to create an account so you can access everything any other user would.

http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/community/support/clearspace?view=discussions

What do you like?

What do you dislike?

How would you make it better?

Don't spare the words, be specific and clear in your assessments and suggestions.
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    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    February 24, 2009
    I was commenting only to the notion that people that didn't want the text to span the entire width of the screen are ADHD candidates
    Participating Frequently
    February 24, 2009
    >Here's my worst nightmare (this is from Luminous Landscape):

    Not a good idea to try to make a point with an image which is not constrained by the width of the browser (or are you just trying to be tricky?). Of course, using a browser, your line width would be as wide as you want to make it, something that a screengrab does not make apparent. Having said that, I would much prefer it as I said - full width, let me decide whether or not and by how much I want to contract the line width.
    February 24, 2009
    The current page-width displays 85 characters per line on my computer and provides excellent legibility for fast reading.

    You can always adjust your font size in your User prefs. if your experience is different you don't have to inflict your requirements on the rest of us.
    Participating Frequently
    February 24, 2009
    Ann - agree there server is slow today but link opens for me, but it was only an example of what a list of typical features would look like for forum software.

    pj- I agree that one would not want more then 2/3rds screen. Here on this page, it is hard coded at 700 px. I have a monitor screen res at 1920 x 1200. Even on my laptop, 1680x1050 half my page is white space.

    I just don't think one should hard code a page that should flow. The user can always resize their browser to not be full screen. Heck, they can have two browsers side by side.

    But I think the over all look should be retained. We have all been spoiled with a clean white look. A list of threads. The ability to come back and visually see which threads you recently viewed - though many felt the difference in the blue tones was too subtle.

    The new flags being used. Etc...

    No avatars, banners, boxes, borders, but more of a typical Craigslist with multi threads and css. With the high volume of topics, it has been nice to see no clutter. Most php can let the user set the size of the page and even the font size. Its on the fly css changes. Not hard but uses cookies. And something I would think MM could do. Then anyone can decide their own choices. They should be able to dictate what they want their page to look like. White or black, blue or red, white fonts or yellow.... it isn't hard to do this in today's age.

    The real question comes down to how much time are they willing to put in to make this happen and how much time have they already invested. And are they committed to really making a change. The more the user can control the look of the page, the more it will be accepted. That or stay with the basic white package.

    I don't think most here want avatars and features that don't add to the meat of the forum. We aren't teenagers looking to hook up next Friday night with our friends to go see High School Musical 3.

    We want to just ask or answer questions as part of a community that uses the same product. In and out.
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    February 24, 2009
    Its not a problem of ADHD.

    It the problem of the ability to read fast and take in.

    It customary regardless whether text based, or html based to you at most if even on a PC 100 character (96 standard on PC) and 72-84 on Mac. People can read and taken.

    It throws people's concentration off whether they have ADHD or not.

    I read and post in several forums and it takes a while, to read and post in those groups. Adobe Forums is but one. If the number of characters per line are too much that slows down my reading.

    I have a a life besides computers. and I want get on, read, post an answer if necessary, then get out and get on with the rest of my life.
    February 24, 2009
    >does nobody employ proper web designers any more?

    Kath:

    It would seem not.

    Or not in Adobeland anyway if this terrible re-design project is permitted to proceed.
    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    February 24, 2009
    Percentage widths for pete's sake or related to people's browser prefs - does nobody employ proper web designers any more?
    Participating Frequently
    February 24, 2009
    >No you don't.

    Yes I do.

    >No to have it span the width , people would lose interest in reading.

    Has the ADHD gotten so popular these days that line widths must be shortened or we risk people missing the excitement of jumping down to the next line?
    PJonesCET
    Participating Frequently
    February 24, 2009
    I was explaining the reason for not having text ended the full length of the page. you want the text width regardless of page width to amount to no more than 72-84 Character width regardless of how much magnification used.

    7.5 to 8 inches width on a piece of typing paper amount to about 72-84 Characters (this includes white space on the line.)

    In any event you want to extend no more than 2/3's the screen width.

    example:

    February 24, 2009
    One "issue" being that the Boonex link fails to open at all?

    8/