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Sure wish I could create a poll for this, but anyway...
Doesn't matter whether I have the customizing scripts enabled or not...GreaseMonkey and/or the Stylish add-on enabled or disabled. I turn AdBlock off or leave it on. Browser cache cleared, or loaded up with common AdobeForums elements.
Connecting with a robust Comcast cable connection, usually testing at about 6100 kbps for download speeds.
Most thread index pages take on average anywhere from 28 - 34 seconds to completely load for me.
A thread with no replies maybe 10 - 12 seconds.
Is anyone getting significantly faster speeds on similar connections?
S.D.A. wrote:
It's the same with any new large scale software roll out !
sorry, i've been involved in some large scale rollouts and if i rolled out software this borked i'd be looking for a job as soon as the rollback was finished...
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Every day, about this time, things slow down to even more of a crawl than usual.
I just noticed that the time stamp I see is local not 8.22 PST
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Post your page loading times...
<ollie williams>It's SLOW phos! DAMN slow!</ollie williams>

thank you for that report, ollie williams...
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About two minutes to get in this time, but then I was still logged in.
I can in good conscience say that this POS forum is the worst performing one I have ever visited. ![]()
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Ramón G Castañeda wrote:
About two minutes to get in this time, but then I was still logged in.
I can in good conscience say that this POS forum is the worst performing one I have ever visited.
What OS and browser are you using ?
The people with slow loading times should post relevant information so we can see if there is a pattern. It would be interesting to kinow ISP as well because all or either of the foregoing can/may be the issue(s) causing the problem. I personally have quite fast load times on any of the 'puters I've used via the web.
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OK. Here is some information.
MacPro (OS X, 10.5.6)
Safari(3.2.1)
Comcast Cable modem
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S.D.A. wrote:
The people with slow loading times should post relevant information so we can see if there is a pattern. It would be interesting to kinow ISP as well because all or either of the foregoing can/may be the issue(s) causing the problem.
I think in many cases, hardware specs, OS & version, connection, browser type & version can be removed from the equation.
For me—and I suspect most visitors here—everything else has remained the same, except that this is a different forum platform.
On most days for me, WebX would load just about any page in under 2 seconds.
I haven't come anywhere close to that with this Jive-arse Scheiß.
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Phos±four dots wrote:
I haven't come anywhere close to that with this Jive-arse Scheiß.
Oh, you naughty boy ![]()
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S.D.A. wrote:
What OS and browser are you using ?
Not relevant. It does not depend on the browser, the machine or the OS.
Sometimes a page will load in three to five seconds, sometimes it takes two or more minutes. On the same machine and in the same browser, the rest of the web is instantaneous, including other forums where going from one page to another one, or even from one forum to another one, is as fast as changing TV channels with the remote, i.e. instantaneous. There's no way to measure such a tiny fraction of a second accurately.
The fastest browser is iCab 4.5, with Firefox 3.0.8 a relatively close second.
On the former forums on WebX, when it was working optimally, going from one page to another one or from the Photoshop forum to the Typography forum, also was like changing TV channels with the remote, i.e. instantaneous.
The overall experience here, including the un-usability issues, is poorer by a factor of 30:1, as I've said before. I'm spending three times as long here as I used to in the WebX forum and I'm only able to read and reply to about one tenth the number of posts. Ergo 30:1. I call that p¡ss-poor performance.
Pathetic, just pathetic.
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As if purposefully to add insult to injury, this gosh-darned POS forum logged me out as I was trying to post the original version of my earlier post after I had spent considerably time composing and formatting it, and it made me lose everything when I logged back in!
D@mn you, Jive Software and Adobe, just d@mn you! ![]()
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As Scott Falkner said in a different thread:
I will have to think long and hard before I fork over one more nickel to these idiots.
D@mn you, Jive Software and Adobe, just d@mn you! ![]()
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Here are some of my specs:
Mac PowerBook 17" with 1.67GB Processor and 2 GB System RAM. 120GB Hard Drive. Connection:DCL-DSL syncronous connection 1 MB up/dowload
ISP: Kimbanet
Experiences:
Typically loads within 2 seconds or less.
On occassion sometimes a page will sit like its looking up location for as long as 10-15 seconds.
No rhyme or reason as when this happens could be morning, middle of day or night.
After this though pages load in 2 second range or less.
Login first week in operation Login every 36 hrs. Then every 24 Hrs.
Login now anywhere from 8 to 12 hrs.
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Firefox 3.0.8 in Windows XP Pro
With (nearly?) identical configurations at work and home.
At home on DSL: all loading times acceptable; no problems.
At work on LAN/T1: Everything works acceptably until I attempt a reply. After clicking a reply link, I wait 40 sec. to 2 minutes for the post editor to load, and when/if it does, the live user entry area is absent. In other words, the boxed area in which I have a live insertion point for typing like I am now, (at home), simply isn't there. I can't post a reply. Bizarre. Like this:

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Bizarre. Like this:
I see that often too. usually a page reload, or go back and forward a few times clears it up. sometimes i just give up. sad.
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Good old Adobe — always at the forefront of technology and at the arse end of support!
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John Mensinger wrote:
Firefox 3.0.8 in Windows XP Pro
At work on LAN/T1: Everything works acceptably until I attempt a reply. After clicking a reply link, I wait 40 sec. to 2 minutes for the post editor to load, and when/if it does, the live user entry area is absent. In other words, the boxed area in which I have a live insertion point for typing like I am now, (at home), simply isn't there. I can't post a reply.
This exactly the behavior I see when JavaScript is turned of in my browser. Check to see if JavaScript is off in your browser at work.
Tools->Options->Content Tab. Enable JavaScript
Of course, if your IT doesn't allow JS, then you're out of luck on any site that requires JS to function.
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You folks with drastically slow load times might try the Google Browser Beta (not release). It's fast on web applications that use extensive use of Javascript. Worth a shot anyway, (only for window users at this point I'm afraid) what have you got to lose ?
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S.D.A. wrote:
You folks with drastically slow load times might try the Google Browser Beta (not release). It's fast on web applications that use extensive use of Javascript. Worth a shot anyway, (only for window users at this point I'm afraid) what have you got to lose ?
Time. As I do when I make my posts more legible, and when waiting for pages to load, or for this box to appear. Why should I be wasting time in these things? None of these happened in the previous version.
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I have OptOnline. I haven't done a thing to tweak my Browsers. I use Safari almost exclusively, but I have FF, and Opera installed (I only have Opera cause is buried in a Bridge CS3 folder, and I discovered it by accident.). Main machine is a PowerBook G4 15" 1.67 GHz/2GB.
I haven't tested my BB connection in a few years. I think you (Phos) posted a link to a test in the Lounge), and my results were, I don't recall the exact wording, but they amounted to something like "Speed Demon!)
Anyway, I've been reading about the slowness of the forums, completely puzzled: All of the pages, regardless of how many pages, etc. load in 1-2 seconds for me? <Shrug>
Now, I AM having some of the other problems people are writing about, but speed is not my biggest issue with this new setup.
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Yes, I agree: the new forums speed does not seem to be the same for all users; and I don't find any pattern. Except that, for many people (myself included) loading times increased from well less that a second, to 10 or more seconds per page. Change that has affected these new forums only, since the first day, and none of the many other sites I frequent, still loading in well less than a second.
Cable connection, 5000-5500 kbps measured with PC Pitstop. Local IP I'm using is VTR. Doesn't make any diference if I connecto using an old Mac with Firefox 2, or a Vista laptop with Explorer. Times are longer (haven't measured them) when using a slower DSL connection.
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Pages load fairly fast for me - it's just that there are so many of them, because of the wasted space. It also takes much longer to reply - we need a quick-reply box with no frills, always visible at the end of the thread.
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Things slow way down when I push a machine to do more then it really wants to do. Particularly the one they have me using at work, which only has 256 mg ram. I don't care that it's on a fast connection... it it doesn't have enough processing power, so it's going to be slow. I would like to see them tweak whatever it is that needs tweaking so the forums don't suck the life out of processors. People shouldn't have to have high end machines to use the Adobe forums.
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on the other hand, using crappy machines to run Adobe applications isn't the best thing in the world. I wouldn't want to use Photoshop on a machine with 256 megs of ram![]()
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Zeno Bokor wrote:
on the other hand, using crappy machines to run Adobe applications isn't the best thing in the world. I wouldn't want to use Photoshop on a machine with 256 megs of ram
Me either, and I wouldn't try on that one. But, what do they say, like 95% or so of machines have Reader on them. That is quite an active forum. I imagine there are other consumer end programs that will run on low end machines that people seek help in the forums for various issues. Chances are they have Adobe software running at the same time they're spending time in the forums. I don't think there is any Adobe software, at any level, that is not a resource pig in itself. Than we add the forums to that.
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Reader? you mean Acrobat Reader? i stopped using that a long time ago, too bloated for my needs![]()
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You probably stopped long before they renamed it Adobe Reader to try and stop people confusing it with Acrobat ![]()
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