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Products for students

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October 6, 2010
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Hi

Why Adobe doesn't offer their products for students (if not for all, but for university students) for free? Microsoft will, and I think that's good advertisement for they.

For example, if I want to buy CS5 Design Premium and I'm a student. I haven't got money for that, if it costs 2300€ incl. VAT and I get -80% that still cost me 460€. Students don't have that much money to spend in some programs.

Thanks

Mikko Peltonen, student

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MikkoPeltonenAuthor

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Hi again

I don't know enough to buy this product. I would like to ask from Adobe about this... Here was some kind of online chat, where I can speak with Adobe expert. No I can't find it. Does someone know that chat and could link it to me?

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Anonymous

sorry about that.

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Anonymous

i wasn't making "fun" of your typo, i was pointing out how silly and small your pointing out the "mistake" in my use of the work "emulation" was. especially to the point where you felt the need to hear yourself bloviate so much that you had to write a small book on the subject.

so "technically" it was all ok since i was only "technically" making a minor "technical" point about your post.

Phillip M Jones

Inspiring

wasn't making fun of anything. If you took it that way my appologies.

Emulation refers to Software that Acts like whatever.

Virtual Machine is something totally different. its not acting like anything. It is using the real thing in another area of the Processor.

Sorry to upset you.

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Anonymous

So if I buy Windows version I can't use it in Mac.

correct. unless you're running some kind of windows emulation software on the mac and run it through there. it'll still be a native windows application.

Phillip M Jones

Inspiring

dave milbut wrote:
So if I buy Windows version I can't use it in Mac.
correct. unless you're running some kind of windows emulation software on the mac and run it through there. it'll still be a native windows application.

Technically speaking your off.

all recent Mac use Intel chips that have built into the chip itself Virtual machines. This is not emulation. It means That the same Chip can run Windows, Mac, Linux, UNIX Natively in each virtual machine.

PC's can do it. But MS is so scared they might lose Windows USERs they don't make it avaible (or if avaible it not advertised nor sanctioned).

With the Use of BootCamp, VMware, or Parallels. When you go in to your windows , Linux, Unix (or whatever OS) partition its the same as if your actually own one of those computers. Nothing is being emulated. BootCamp, VMWare, and Parallels are necessary, but glorified switching software that turns on the Virtual machine(s). BootCamp only works to boot into the Windows partition. While VMware and Parallels actually let you run both systems at the same time.

There is other software that allow you run specific applications without use of the coresponding system. I can't speak to their abilities.

Whether using Bootcamp, VMware, or Parallels you must actually purchase or obtain the Full operating system $2-400 bucks to put on the partition. the VM Software only passes calls to Drivers for things such as Printers, Scanners, Camera and such But other than that it just switches from the main VM that OSX is running, to the VM containg the Widows, or UNIX, Or Linux, Or BEOS or what ever, system you wish to run. with Parallels your limited to number of running systems to the actual number of cores in the processors. dual core two VM. Quad core 4 VM, 6 core 6 VM's, 8 core 8 VMs and so on.

Parallels can setup VM for just about any OS in existent. So if wish For the Price of Operating system plus $79.00 for Parallels you can get the quivelent to a Dell/HP/Gateway or whatever, PC built into your Mac.

While in partition its eactly running the equivelent computer.

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Anonymous

Technically speaking your off.

technically speaking, you are is two words. "you're" is a contraction of those two words. "your" is used to denote ownership.

thanks for playing.

John T Smith

Adobe Expert

This is in the knowledgebase - read here http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/195/tn_19592.html

Also, do not buy a US version and try to activate it outside the US... I have read other messages that doing so will not work... you must have the version and serial number for your country

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Anonymous

and of course the programming products are free because microsoft is smart enough to realize that when a student is done at university and goes on to get a real job, they're going to want to use tools that they're familiar with. ms makes it's money off of corporations who employ those students.

wonder if anyone else could learn a lesson from that?

nah. i'm sure it's more profitable to build expensive and often crippling DRM into all your applications and then sue the pants off the bloody pirates than it is to train the next generation to love to work in your expensive tools.

Jacob Bugge

Adobe Expert

Mikko,

You will have to ask Adobe. This is a forum about the Adobe forums, and (almost all) the participants are users just like you; there is no representation of Adobe here.

How can you get the 80% discount as a student?

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MikkoPeltonenAuthor

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Well, I'm not sure where this offer is placed but http://tryit.adobe.com/fi/cs5/student_teacher/?sdid=HTJHL&

Jacob Bugge

Adobe Expert

Thank you very much, Mikko. I could just change the country code part of the URL.

I must say I think that is a generous offer, which I will recommend to anyone fulfilling the requirements.

And after all, the applications you mention as being free for students/teachers are at a somewhat lower level, and much cheaper; in addition they are competing with fully comparable free alternatives.

I am fully aware of the inherent poverty of students (some of us should still qualify as students/teachers because of our spending most of our time on learning/teaching/guiding and other non profit activities rather than moneymaking).

This should lead to better student conditions, such as government subsidies for relevant education tools. I am afraid those conditions are far worse in the US than in SF.

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