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December 10, 2009
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Thanks from Q

  • December 10, 2009
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I am now allowed to post as my ban has been lifted.  To those that took a stand in my favor I am truly grateful.  Your support and kind words I will always treasure.  I must also acknowledge my appreciation to two of the people that oversee these forums.  I believe it is John and Rick.  It appears that these individuals decided to review my ban and found it not warranted.  I sincerely thank both of you.  I

I do, however, want it known that I am not celebrating a PARDON, as that would indicate that I have been guilty of some offense but was forgiven.  I still maintain that I did nothing wrong and that I was unfairly banned without any warning.

Although I could not log-in I did read the posts every day.  I grew angry over some of the comments made by a VERY FEW moderators.  Such as; "People are only banned after repeatedly not obeying the rules of the forums."  Or that "People receive warnings before being banned."  And my favorite,  "Send an e-mail, apologize and ask to have ban lifted."  Paraphrasing, not exact quotes.

In my case I made ONE post critical of the forums and how they are being moderated.

Please note I was not rude, did not make fun of anyone and I most certainly did not use profanity.  I received an e-mail informing me that I had been banned.  It did not inform me what I did to bring this about.  It did say to e-mail back with any questions.  I did so twice and never got a reply.  My e-mail did not contain an apology but it was respectful.

After my experience, I can only conclude that all bans should be voided.  Start over and use some common sense.  Moderators should moderate, not dictate.  Having the attitude that one is always right and never wrong leads nowhere and certainly doesn't gain respect.  I'm aware of only one moderator that fits this description.  The rest, I believe, are doing the best they can with what they have.

Q

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    Captiv8r
    Legend
    December 10, 2009

    Hi Q

    For what it's worth, I had never heard of your forum identity until Linda (LRK 2) posted to ask why you had been banned. I'm pleased to have helped in some small way but by no means am I directly responsible other than asking around to see if Adobe would take a second look.

    Linda deserves all the credit for the polite and mature way she handled presenting your case here.

    It seems most unfortunate that you apparently were simply banned without warning. I still can't help but to wonder if your ban was some odd mistake. Perhaps a mistyped letter or whatever.

    At any rate, nice to meet you! Rick

    December 10, 2009

    and Linda, I, too, thank you for getting the actions done that led to the removal of the ban for Q.

    Rick, for the record, others had asked why the bans, why no explanations, etc, including the ban on Q.  Those questions fell on deaf ears.  I am very happy that Linda was able to break the silence.

    I agree with Q, the bans should be lifted and clearly thought out before banning anyone from the forums.

    Adobe MUST realize that these folks are the people who purchase their software and keep their company in business.  To ban, without properly informing and without sound judgement only harms the reputation of the company.  I am sure that is not what the company shareholders want to see  happen.

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    December 10, 2009

    Rick,

    basicially, it's button pushing.  That's what happened in this forum for many of us.  Push the button enough and people react in a way that might be considered uncharacteristic, or at least like that last nerve that gets stomped on and causes the negative reaction.


    Rick,

    I would also like to thank you for taking up Q's cause with the powers that BE at Adobe.

    I second what Hopper has said.  Prior to Linda's request, others had asked why the mass bannings and some hostility errupted.  In general, it was made known that fueling the flames by asking questions such as that could lead the questioner to be banned as well.

    That doesn't sit right with a lot of Adobe's customers.

    Anyway, there are still others who have been banned without warning or explanation or any idea if there is some sort of time limit or not.

    I don't know her, but I recall Oz Woman asking why she was singled out and accused  of something or other.  I am not aware if she ever received the information she asked for.  Unless that topic has been opened in another thread, if I remember correctly, the topic went silent.

    Patrice