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Claudio González
Legend
September 13, 2012
Question

Typeface choice gone

  • September 13, 2012
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The Advanced Editor window has experienced some changes today. One of the unwanted ones is that the hability to choose typefaces is gone, or extremely well hidden.

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    Jacob Bugge
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 18, 2012

    I see what Claudio sees in post #25.

    And it is quite disturbing to write in Times. It even applies to the Advanced Editor.

    Claudio González
    Legend
    September 18, 2012

    Jacob Bugge wrote:

    I see what Claudio sees in post #25.

    And it is quite disturbing to write in Times. It even applies to the Advanced Editor.

    Maybe this is the reason why they removed the possibility of using different fonts?

    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    September 18, 2012

    Note that half the fonts people are trying to use here - e.g., Calibri - don't come out right on an iPhone either.

    -Noel

    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    September 16, 2012

    Claudio, I was once critical of your choice to edit your posts to forcibly use Verdana, but I have started to come 'round.  I'm sorry for any criticism you may have felt from me in the past (though to be accurate I was arguing at the time in favor of a better font than the current Adobe-Clean that is in use here).

    Adobe-Clean is a poorly designed font to be the public face of a computer software company, because, well, it's just bad for use to express high tech stuff, and it's not even properly being displayed by the forum software (italics are botched by Typekit for all Internet Explorer browsers, which instead just the skew the Normal face to oblique).  Consider this text in both Regular and Italic variants:

    With Adobe-Clean regular, it's fairly easy to \see\ which of |these| things is /surrounded/ by what kinds of special characters (backslash, vertical bar, forward slash)...

    When italics are used, it's not quite /so/ terribly |easy| to pick \out\ the differences, however.

    For you, Claudio, I have attempted to use HTML to format the majority of this post in Verdana.  Whether I have succeeded will be revealed after posting.

    -Noel

    Claudio González
    Legend
    September 16, 2012

    Thanks, Noel. There is an old Spanish saying that can be freely translated as "the devil knows more by being old than by being cunning", although this involves an untranslatable word play, because we also call diablo (devil) someone who is cunning. I hope the meaning is clear in my translated version.

    I started using Verdana in my posts when they began using here the highly unreadable (on screen) Arial, and at a very tiny size. I chose Verdana as one example of a font that was designed specialy for onscreen reading, very successfully in my opinion, although there are of course others. Now they have changed to a font of their own, Adobe Clean I think. This has meant an improvement, although not a very large one: at the size used here, I had never noticed the very slight difference between an upper case "i" and a lower case "L" until someone pointed it to me.

    To top it all, right now the font used for text in the reply window looks as Times to my untrained eye, and this changes to Adobe Clean after posting. Very cunning.

    Noel Carboni
    Legend
    September 16, 2012

    Understood completely.  We also often say "you little devil" when recognizing someone for being tricky or cunning.

    Another thing I've noticed, and it's not limited to Adobe's font, but it DOES make a difference under some conditions, is that the Italic Adobe-Clean font seems more compressed horizontally than its Regular counterpart.  While aesthetically unpleasing to me, this could make readability of some things difficult.  Consider:

    Adobe Clean:

    1,000,000,000,000 - One billion

    2,000,000,000,000 - Two billion

    3,000,000,000,000 - Three billion

    Folks using Internet Explorer will not see the actual italic Adobe-Clean font, and because (for whatever reason) it just skews the font the character width is consistent.  But those using Firefox or Safari (and possibly others), they see a slightly different width in the italics.  Maybe that's reasonable for a font for a book, but for high tech work?

    Verdana:

    1,000,000,000,000 - One billion

    2,000,000,000,000 - Two billion

    3,000,000,000,000 - Three billion

    -Noel

    Alec Molloy
    Inspiring
    September 13, 2012

    I don't know about you, but I think this a great improvement. Typographic consistancy greatly improves readability in documents.

    Claudio González
    Legend
    September 13, 2012

    It is if the font used is easily legible on screen at the small size employed in these forums. Which isn't the case of our new Adobe font.

    Alec Molloy
    Inspiring
    September 13, 2012

    Have you tried the page magnification? This can be done by pressing cmd/ctrl and the plus symbol.

    I don't have a problem, but that's just my young eyes. I can definitely understand how many users could have an issue with this.