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September 22, 2014
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GTX 970 and Premiere Pro

  • September 22, 2014
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Sure,it says Unsupported,but i have a doubt because i'm scared as *BEEEP!* now that i've seen this topic i've been looking for

I own a GTX 660 Ti OC 2GB and it works perfectly with my Premiere Pro CC 2014. However,i was about to buy a GIGABYTE Nvidia GTX 970 until i tought: "Will it work with my Premiere Pro CC 2014?..Better ask".. Been asking and nobody replied to me.

Because i don't want to buy a card that'll NOT WORK AT ALL with my CC 2014!

In other works: If i buy a GTX 970, will it work with Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014 COMPLETELY/FULL POWER, supported or not??

Please reply ASAP!!!

Thanks in advance

DV

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    Correct answer ECBowen

    yondon ~

    1) It's up to the vendor to decide if they wish to continue maintaining any specific codec. MainConcept doesn't feel it's important to their future. They're probably simply putting their development dollars into something else. That said, there are some vendors who have h.264 encoders that support the 980 and are designed to leverage it, for example (I have not used this codec nor am I recommending it, just an example):

    High performance CUDA H264 Codec

    2) Yes, encoding as in "compressing" the final video. Not "application" performance. That's why I said "the applications also need to make use of the SDK themselves". And this is what most of us actually want. We want fast previews, accelerated filters, etc. At the moment, Adobe does not utilize Maxwell CUDA for any of that. Keep in mind, this generation of CUDA was designed with "general purpose" computing power in mind. That is fairly brand new. Previously there was a very limited way to utilize GPU power. GPUs are great at graphics but they are not a "general purpose" processor like a "CPU" is. Therefore there was limited interest in spending time trying to utilize the small amount of the GPU that was usable for application performance. Maxwell can be utilized much more like a CPU core now, so we hope vendors will start to use the cores for "application" performance.

    Just keep in mind, what I mean by "encoding" is exporting and compressing the final video. "Application" performance is how the application is utilizing the GPU to speed up editing, previews, filters, 3D, lighting, pixelshading, etc.

    3) My guess would be if you have a gigantic PNG sequence your hard drive is your bottleneck. It simply can't keep up with reading a huge amount of small files. You'd do yourself a big favor encoding those into a real video so you can utilize your GPU decoders for playback. If you need transparency then you can use something lossless but encoded like Quicktime Animation Millions+ (RGBA). Open up your resource monitor during PNG playback and while you see your CPU bored at 10% you'll probably see your HD at max.


    Right now the 900 series cards are testing fine  with the MPE engine and acceleration. I have not seen any limitation including effects. So I am not sure where people are running into problems. AE acceleration is ray tracer and on the way outs. Dont expect Nvidia to maintain the version AE left at in the drivers and I would be surprised if any new cards work with it since Adobe is done updating it. Very few use it at this point and C4D with Octane is far better especially for the GPU acceleration.

    Eric

    ADK

    25 replies

    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 30, 2014

    Did so,and left the results above your comment if you wanna analyze it to see if there's something else i should do to see if any export time reduced or something.

    Thanks in advance ^^

    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 30, 2014

    ASUS P8Z68-V PRO GEN3

    Intel i5-2500K @ 3,3Ghz Stock (NO OC)

    8GB DDR3 1333mhz RAM

    Nvidia GIGABYTE GTX 970 4GB DDR5 G1 GAMING

    SSD 250GB SAMSUNG 840 EVO

    HDD 1TB WD Blue 7200RPM

    Windows 7 64bits Home Premium

    Anything else?

    Bill Gehrke
    Inspiring
    September 30, 2014

    For that system you probably would not see much performance improvement.  Spend money on memory,  See also Harm's Tweakers Page on "What Video Card to Use"  While it has not been updated to the new GTX 9xx series, that is just because we have not seen any GTX 970 or GTX 980 results yet to really know how they perform.

    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 30, 2014

    @bill:  Can't upgrade much until Intel's Skylake where i'll do the "big jump" (This MB/CPU is around +3-4 years old,yes). And ya saying there won't be much performance improvement with the GTX 970? Oo..

    @ECB:  What's "AME" ?..Adobe Media Encoder?...Note that i am on Windows 7 64bits Home Premium and i own AME and Premiere Pro in their CC 2014 versions! (Both saying "Updated" with a green "V" 'd circle on Creative Cloud's App). Where's that file and what should i do there?..

    And yes,i Have/NEED the 344.16 drivers to get my GTX 970 DETECTED (Back then even with 344.11 wich was SUPPOSED to have such GPU's listed,weren't and had to go online to get the "just new!" drivers for it).

    Thanks in advance

    PS: I always have a "THE WALKING DEAD S2E5 (TellTale Games)" video wich's lenght is around 1h30-55min to test out the export speed to see if it goes faster or slower depending of the drivers n all that stuff...If that helps too

    EDIT: Found the file by searching Cuda in Adobe (64bits') folder and found both cuda support in the them, wrote down a copy/paste a line of the other GeForce texts and just changing the numbers.

    This is a screenshot of how Adobe Media Encoder CC 2014 looks like (to show off the "TIme left",a feature i wanna see in a future premiere update even when you're doing "2 VBR passes" or somehthing)

    http://prntscr.com/4rrnh2

    Vid in the end is 1h27min and while encoding in AME CC 2014 Time Left shows right now ,after some crazy spinnings,1h10min left...Kinda like the vid itself,unless it should perform faster somehow

    The video Preview at the bottom left shows that the texts and stuff that happens in the game are like...2-3 times faster than the game itself,a nice "Fast Forward"..

    It's funny how little GPU usage (at the top right gadget) does and how much CPU and RAM (Nearly 6GB of 8) does..Though it goes crazy with GPU going from 5-20% of the yellow bar and barely surpassing the 350MB on memory of 4GB

    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 27, 2014

    Got the new GPU. It works flawless. HOWEVER,CUDA has been removed from the latest drivers and now exporting takes twice or x 3 times more time than normal...Like a simple CRYSIS 3 recording of 6 minutes takes what?,12-18?

    Adobe and Nvidia better make something to fix this huge issue.. however,i've heard people saying that CUDA can be enabled again with some modded drivers...But i'm waiting for someone to put SUCH DRIVERS online to get and try them...Else...*Sigh* Bad move,Adobe/Nvidia

    ECBowen
    Inspiring
    September 29, 2014

    We need to check your configuration because I am not seeing that in testing the 980GTX so far. The performance is showing the same as the 780Ti so far that I am seeing.


    Eric

    ADK

    Inspiring
    September 30, 2014

    thanks Eric !!...good news.so far !!!... Hopefully, the 980 will show EVEN BETTER and a the NEXT question would be : is it BETTER to use TWO 970s,OR, better to use ONE 980 that has a LARGER amount of video memory....somewhere I read that there will be 8 GB versions of these cards. Looking forward to your test results !!!

    cc_merchant
    Inspiring
    September 22, 2014

    See Tweakers Page - Balanced Systems .

    Is the rest of your system up-to-snuff for a faster card?

    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 22, 2014

    @CC_M: Intel i5-2500K @ 3,3Ghz (Stock,NO OC, fear of burning the PC), 660GTX Ti OC 2GB, 8GB DDR3 1333mhz RAM, Windows 7 64bits Home Premium, and most importantly, Antec AX860W PSU +80 Platinum Certificate.

    I might not OC the CPU at all ,again,due to the fear of burning the PC, and i'm waiting for Intel's Skylake to release to upgrade the entire tower's insides

    Hope that helps

    cc_merchant
    Inspiring
    September 22, 2014

    Keep what you have, the 660Ti OC. No sense spending money on the new 970.. It will not bring any noticeable benefit.

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    September 22, 2014

    Hi DV2Fox,

    Click through any warning dialog box, then check to see if File > Project Settings > Mercury Playback Engine GPU Acceleration (CUDA) can be enabled (or is enabled). If your GPU is over 1 GB VRAM, it is not officially certified, but should work fine. See the fifth paragraph of this blog: Adobe Premiere Pro CC and GPU support | Premiere Pro work area

    Thanks,

    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    September 22, 2014

    That's something i'm a bit grateful about, but... You're telling me that with the 970GTX will work on PPCC2014 without any problems?..Because the architecture is "Different" than the 660GTX and might have compatibility problems or something.

    That's why i mentioned the 970 GTX.....