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September 22, 2014
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GTX 970 and Premiere Pro

  • September 22, 2014
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Sure,it says Unsupported,but i have a doubt because i'm scared as *BEEEP!* now that i've seen this topic i've been looking for

I own a GTX 660 Ti OC 2GB and it works perfectly with my Premiere Pro CC 2014. However,i was about to buy a GIGABYTE Nvidia GTX 970 until i tought: "Will it work with my Premiere Pro CC 2014?..Better ask".. Been asking and nobody replied to me.

Because i don't want to buy a card that'll NOT WORK AT ALL with my CC 2014!

In other works: If i buy a GTX 970, will it work with Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014 COMPLETELY/FULL POWER, supported or not??

Please reply ASAP!!!

Thanks in advance

DV

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    Correct answer ECBowen

    yondon ~

    1) It's up to the vendor to decide if they wish to continue maintaining any specific codec. MainConcept doesn't feel it's important to their future. They're probably simply putting their development dollars into something else. That said, there are some vendors who have h.264 encoders that support the 980 and are designed to leverage it, for example (I have not used this codec nor am I recommending it, just an example):

    High performance CUDA H264 Codec

    2) Yes, encoding as in "compressing" the final video. Not "application" performance. That's why I said "the applications also need to make use of the SDK themselves". And this is what most of us actually want. We want fast previews, accelerated filters, etc. At the moment, Adobe does not utilize Maxwell CUDA for any of that. Keep in mind, this generation of CUDA was designed with "general purpose" computing power in mind. That is fairly brand new. Previously there was a very limited way to utilize GPU power. GPUs are great at graphics but they are not a "general purpose" processor like a "CPU" is. Therefore there was limited interest in spending time trying to utilize the small amount of the GPU that was usable for application performance. Maxwell can be utilized much more like a CPU core now, so we hope vendors will start to use the cores for "application" performance.

    Just keep in mind, what I mean by "encoding" is exporting and compressing the final video. "Application" performance is how the application is utilizing the GPU to speed up editing, previews, filters, 3D, lighting, pixelshading, etc.

    3) My guess would be if you have a gigantic PNG sequence your hard drive is your bottleneck. It simply can't keep up with reading a huge amount of small files. You'd do yourself a big favor encoding those into a real video so you can utilize your GPU decoders for playback. If you need transparency then you can use something lossless but encoded like Quicktime Animation Millions+ (RGBA). Open up your resource monitor during PNG playback and while you see your CPU bored at 10% you'll probably see your HD at max.


    Right now the 900 series cards are testing fine  with the MPE engine and acceleration. I have not seen any limitation including effects. So I am not sure where people are running into problems. AE acceleration is ray tracer and on the way outs. Dont expect Nvidia to maintain the version AE left at in the drivers and I would be surprised if any new cards work with it since Adobe is done updating it. Very few use it at this point and C4D with Octane is far better especially for the GPU acceleration.

    Eric

    ADK

    25 replies

    Participant
    February 22, 2017

    I'm using Gigabyte Destop machine 2.9 ghz... Intel core i7 Ram 8 gig DDr3 I want to go buy GTX 970 4gb to support it

    .... My question? Can it run all Adobe products? I need answers Especially Premier Pro and After Effect

    Participant
    February 22, 2017

    A lot of people got a huge problem about this issues, my opinion why don't you guys who has testified to see which specs and the availability of the machines that can run Adobe products, why don't you name it or show us the type of Graphic cards, Ram, speed of the Board, resolution etc, why don't you help those who suffered from this problem.... So what I'm mean now is guys if you are using a Destop machine that run all adobe products, please drop the specs, explain abit for us,  because we don't want to go buy machine that can't run it... We need help, the requirements of it

    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    February 22, 2017

    Allow me to help with that ^^

    Motherboard: ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING

    CPU: Intel i7 6700K (Default clocks, no OC.I know, stupid, huh?..But it costs a lot and don't wanna BURN IT)

    CPU Cooler: Thermaltake FrioOCK

    PSU: CORSAIR AX860 (860W XD)

    RAM: Corsair? 16GB DDR4 2133mhz

    GPU: GIGABYTE Nvidia GTX 970 4GB DDR5 (3.5GB thou, faulty, but working)

    OS: Windows 7 64bits Home Premium

    HDDs: SAMSUNG EVO 750 250GB (Backup), SAMSUNG EVO 850 500GB (OS, apps, games), WD 1TB Blue (Nvidia GeForce Experience Recordings, downloads, etc...)

    Monitor: BenQ XL2410T or something (120hz enabled, Nvidia 3D Vision Ready (But DISABLED for the obvious))

    As for the Adobe apps, they're all up to the latest versions (Photoshop, illustrator, Premiere Pro, all CC2017, along with Camera Raw or whatever it's called)

    For GPU Drivers, Nvidia 378.66 and GeForce Experience 3.3.0.100.

    Anything else?^^

    Known Participant
    July 7, 2016

    thanks Guys. firetrak thats what I suspected to be honest. I'm going for an 8 core i7, 64gb ddr4 ram, and a pci-e ssd for project files, high speed ssd for cache and my existing ssd for OS so I think everything else will hopefully be up to spec.

    Sound card and gpu are the 2 things I'm unsure of, I think I might go ahead with the upgrade and keep my existing GPU and sound card as you suggest and then maybe spend some more time researching. To be honest the 660ti has never let me down and it works well with my monitor setup having 2x DVI and 1x HDMI outs.

    Participating Frequently
    July 7, 2016

    i've gone through so many different cards from $1000+ to $200 and they just make no difference in editing.

    For instance I have a 970gtx and only in After Effects does adobe even use it and then only 10% of the cards power.

    I dont care what adobe says they just do not use the GPU barely at all.

    Now I will notice AE using using 30gb of my 32gb in my machine and 100% of my CPU, which tells me all I need to know.

    Even an SSD cant be fully utilized as the process speed is CPU dependent and will never match (at least in todays versions) an SSD's throughput. But an SSD is totally beneficial for caching for simply making your PC o/s run faster and more efficiently hence making adobe doing the same, which less bottlenecks.

    And ultimately its the bottlenecks you want to get rid of at any cost, because you could use a Titan card and have a slow physical drive or older CPU and less, slower memory and that Titan v/card may as well be a $50 newegg special.

    Bill Gehrke
    Inspiring
    July 7, 2016

    firetrak wrote:.

    I dont care what adobe says they just do not use the GPU barely at all.

    Here is my GTX 970 with 99% usage during the exporting of a 1080 AVCHD file to a MPEG2-DVD format with my GTX 970 on my i7-5960X at 4.5 GHz.

    It strictly depends on what you are doing and what effects and features you use.  It took 27 seconds to export this 2 minute 39 second timeline.  With the CPU only it takes 10 times as long (276 seconds).  This was done using Premiere 10.3.0.202.

    Known Participant
    July 6, 2016

    I currently have a 660ti in my machine (editing with cc 2014) and the guy pricing up my new machine has recommended the GTX 970 or GTX 980. Are these still officially not supported as mentioned earlier?

    Which card would you guys go for if you were buying a new one today for around the £200 mark? Or should I just keep my 660ti..?

    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    July 6, 2016

    The CC models do NOT have any list of supported or unsupported built into them ... IF the gear is up to snuff, they use it ... if too old/paleolithic, they don't. So there is a list of the ​recommended​ capabilities of video cards for the DVA's, but no list of "supported" cards. Hasn't been since CS6 what, four years ago?

    I've been using a 970/4Gb card for a couple years, works fine. Looking at the 1080/1070 cards and drooling.

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
    Participating Frequently
    July 18, 2015

    Any solution for this?

    I tried to use nvenc export on AME CC 2014.2 and AME CC 2015 but the problem continues

    Participating Frequently
    June 12, 2015

    I just started getting this error after updating my Nvidia drivers.  However if I hit ignore, it still works fine.

    DV2FOXAuthor
    Known Participant
    June 13, 2015

    Hopefully there's a fix soon or later so it won't show up for Newcomers ^^;;;....

    Participant
    May 28, 2015

    Hello, i have the GTX 970 G1 from Gigabyte and it does not work well with Premiere Pro CS6, i am looking forward to upgrade to CC and see if works.

    Basically the latest NVIDIA drivers make the Premiere Crash and also it makes impossible to work PPCS6 with multiple monitors (Crash even more).

    And i dont know what happens with the H264 codec, it simple dont do anything when trying to render. I did rollback for the old drivers and now i can edit and the previews are fast, but only my CPU is beeing used for render and GPU is idle.


    And yes, CUDA is enable on project settings, so if your Premiere is a critical matter, wait for some good news before buy the GTX 970.

    Bill Gehrke
    Inspiring
    May 28, 2015

    Sorry but my GTX 970 works like a charm with both CS6 and Premiere 8.2.0.65.  H.264 is no problem at all.

    mikeklar
    Inspiring
    June 10, 2015

    Oh, how I would like to be able to say that MPE works with PP CC without issues and warnings...

    The message I get on opening an existing file that was previously edited with a NVIDA GTX 580

    Photoshop, Encore have no issues although After Effect comes up with a warning the GPU is untested and unsupported for CUDA acceleration, but allows it to be selected.  However, opening PP CC and selecting "New Project" it allows MPE GPU Acceleration to be selected and subsequent opening of existing projects.

    Also, it appears when rendering the GPU is now more active than what was the case with the GTX 580, as well almost twice as fast.

    ALALphonso
    Participant
    February 19, 2015

    DEAR ADOBE Please activate Ray Trace / CUDA for after effects and Premeire Pro for my GTX 970m and 970...that is all thank you bye

    Kevin-Monahan
    Community Manager
    Community Manager
    February 19, 2015

    Hi Al,

    DEAR ADOBE Please activate Ray Trace / CUDA for after effects and Premeire Pro for my GTX 970m and 970...that is all thank you bye

    That's something we cannot do because Maxwell GPUs do not work with the OptiX Library in the same way as previous NVIDIA GPUs did, which makes it impossible to accelerate ray-traced 3D compositions. Sorry!

    Thanks,

    Kevin

    Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio
    February 6, 2015

    Yes, I disabled the HD4600 GPU and I do have the monitor plugged in into the HDMI port on the back of the card.

    Updated drivers and Premiere, still no success. It does show the option for GPU or "CUDA" rendering, but export times seem to be the same. Right now, I think we shouldleave this to Adobe to figure out an update to let us, the users, leverage the computational power of tthe GTX 970. Also checked to have CUDA enabled on the nVidia control pannel and sure enough, it was enabled, so that's not the cause

    Until then, we'll have to deal with what we have...

    ALSO, I tested the NVENC_export program, again, no success. Says "Unknown Error" and Premiere shuts down. To be honest, I never thought of that mod to be a sustainable fix, but well, it was worth the shot!

    January 18, 2015

    I ran the same Test, but changed the setup just a bit.

    First, I removed the GPU, and ran the same export, same effects, same settings. Took around 18min, that's within margin of error

    Then, I re-installed the gpu and moved the 5min clip to a separate 256gb 850 PRO I had around. I also set the export location to that same SSD, took 15min

    I saw some videos showing that you can triple export speeds using CUDA for encoding, Is that true? Because cc_merchant's post is misleading in that regard

    cc_merchant
    Inspiring
    January 18, 2015

    Read the grey 'Beware' box here: Tweakers Page - What video card to use?

    What is misleading about that? IMO Harm explained it pretty good.

    Participant
    February 27, 2015

    Bill Gerhke wrote this in a previous comment here:

    "I am not sure about all the problems this thread is seeing but with my GTX 970 SC I am getting absolutely great results.  Here is documentation to show 99% usage when I export the PPBM MPEG2-DVD timeline with GPU acceleration.  With my specific computer with CPU only it takes about 500 seconds to export that timeline and with the GTX 970 using CUDA hardware acceleration it takes 27 seconds.  Using the much more complex H.264 timeline with the CPU only it takes about 900 seconds and with the GTX 970 hardware acceleration it takes 88 seconds."

    According to this, GPU does help with export times a LOT. Or am I misunderstanding something?

    So please let me know, does it help or does it not?

    Thank you