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dynaQAadove
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October 24, 2019
Question

Fireworks.pngみたいに文字データが生きているデータの作り方

  • October 24, 2019
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以前CS6を使っていたのですが、fireworksで文字素材を作っていた頃は表組みなど、

そのままデータを残しておいて、修正がきたらDWで編集ボタンを押して、元を更新するだけだったので、

とても楽だったのですが、
CC2019に環境が変わって
同じように文字データが生きた状態で保存・更新が簡単にできる機能は
フォトショップかイラストレーターにはついているのでしょうか？

皆さまは更新多めの文字素材があるとき、元データの扱いはどうしていますか？

よろしくお願いします！

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    nmatsuo5
    Inspiring
    October 26, 2019

    以前は日本語専用フォーラムがあったのですが、現在は統合されて英語以外の言語で記述された質問は自動翻訳されて英語圏の方から回答が寄せられるようになりました。自動翻訳ですので、細かなニュアンスを伝えるのは難しいですね。

     

    ご質問の件ですが、Fireworksとのラウンドトリップ編集(HTML上のイメージから元素材のファイルを開く機能)はPhotoshopでも可能です。詳細については以下のサイトをご覧ください。
    https://helpx.adobe.com/jp/dreamweaver/using/photoshop-dreamweaver.html

     

    Illustratorとはあいにく連動していません。

     

    最近はCSSだけで昔の文字ボタンのような物は実現できるようになりましたので、HTML上で外観を維持したままテキストだけ変更する場合が多いのではないでしょうか。「表組み」がどんなデータなのかで変わってくるとは思いますが…

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      mina_adobe
      Participating Frequently
      October 29, 2019

      nmatsuo5 さん　ありがとうございます！

      そう、以前日本語で質問したと思ったんですけど、日本語フォーラム無くなってしまったんですね( ; ; )

      美麗なフォントをカーニングきつくして使うとかそんな使い方してるので、

      文字データ生きたままだと、バリエーション作るのにも便利なので、
      FW使わないのであれば、教えていただいた方法がベストですね！
      大変参考になりました。

      ありがとうございました！

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      Paul-M
      Legend
      October 24, 2019

      Hello - you can still edit the original source Fireworks PNG file in Dreamweaver if thats what you mean?

      Make sure you have Fireworks listed in the in preferences > file types for the relevant file types

      If you have problems launching Fireworks from within Dreamweaver, make sure you run Deamweaver as administrator

      In Dreamweaver, right click an image in design view > edit with Fireworks > then choose use a PNG:

       

       

      Is this what you mean???

      Paul-M - Community Expert
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        mina_adobe
        Participating Frequently
        October 25, 2019
        Thank you!

Because Fireworks has disappeared,
I can't do it in Photoshop or Illustrator instead
I was thinking.
        B i r n o u
        B i r n o u
        Legend
        October 25, 2019

        Hello Mina

        In fact, if you had already installed Fireworks since the advent of the creative cloud, you should still have access to it. At least here on my computer, I still have access to it

        https://helpx.adobe.com/jp/creative-cloud/kb/why-has-adobe-stopped-developing-my-app-.html

         
         
         

        Moreover, the fact that Adobe now favors a workflow involving Photoshop and/or Illustrator, does not alter the possibility of always and again using Fireworks, as Paul points out (well personally I no longer use it, as it was the case in the past).


        the only thing to keep in mind is that although a file, in JPG, GIF or PNG format (PNG Flatten), is used in HTML content, the original source format (PSD, AI or PNG (PNG FW (not flatten)) remains necessary to feed the roundtrip.

         

        Fireworks uses the PNG natively, but a non-flattened PNG, thus preserving all the objects, layers, editable texts and other elements that Photoshop cannot see or interpret.

         

        we must not confuse the PNG registered under Fireworks, and where the dialog interface allows us to add .fw.png to the extension, preserving layers, objects, texts etc.... of the PNG exported from Fireworks which becomes a flattened PNG in 8, 24 or 32 bit format, but without layers, text or objects.

         

        the trap is that both types of files (with or without objects) can be viewed from a browser (as Photoshop) that flattens everything on the fly

          B i r n o u
          B i r n o u
          Legend
          October 24, 2019

          英語で直接質問をすることができます。

          オンライン翻訳者はあなたの質問の内容についてあいまいさを生み出します。

          ありがとうございました

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            mina_adobe
            Participating Frequently
            October 25, 2019

            ありがとうございます！

            日本語のフォーラムがあればそこに質問してみます！

            BenPleysier
            Community Expert
            BenPleysierCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            October 24, 2019

            This is the Dreamweaver forum and we will gladly help you with Dreamweaver.

             

            If you have questions on any of the other Adobe products, please go to the relevant forum as per https://community.adobe.com/

            Wappler is the DMXzone-made Dreamweaver replacement and includes the best of their powerful extensions, as well as much more!
              B i r n o u
              B i r n o u
              Legend
              October 24, 2019

              I think this question can be related to Dreamweaver, or at least to the workflow that integrates third-party tools to Dreamweaver, but it's true that the translator is a little worried... I tried it with Deepl, but without much improvement.
              could the question be asked again directly in English? if possible?

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                mina_adobe
                Participating Frequently
                October 25, 2019
                I translated it on Google!

I hope it translates well.

I used CS6 before, but when I was making text material with fireworks,

Leave the data as it is, and when the correction came, just press the edit button with DW and update the original,

It was very easy,
The environment has changed to CC2019
Similarly, the function that can easily save and update character data
Is it attached to Photoshop or Illustrator?

How do you handle the original data when you have a lot of updated text material?

Thank you!
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