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Now in beta: Crop

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August 15, 2024
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The intrinsic motion effect now has crop parameters. You can use Crop on all your videos and images without the need to add an effect. If you prefer to continue using Crop from the Effects panel, that is still there and continues to be available.

Crop is now included in the Properties panel. Crop parameters can also be accessed via the motion filter in the Effect Controls Panel.

You can also crop directly in the Program Monitor. Click on the new button under the Program Monitor which will bring up a menu to switch between Crop and Transform.

To use Crop in the Properties Panel, select video or image clips in the timeline. You can crop video clips using Left, Top, Right and Bottom controls in the Property panel. . You can reset any crop modifications by using the reset button on the top right of Crop or by using the Undo command.

For more information about the Properties Panel, please refer to the Beta Forums post on the Properties panel:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-discussions/now-in-beta-properties-panel-for-premiere-pro/td-p/14680465

Please try crop as an intrinsic effect and give us feedback! Thank you!

Abhi Singh
Principal Product Manager, Premiere Pro

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_nicdean

Community Expert

I've used this alot now, and this should be a cool feature. But the render order is wrong.

Why?

A crop is normally the first effect applied to an clip. Other graphic adjustments are then made: transforms, blurs, glows, shadows, rounded corners, etc.

As it stands, every time I reach for Intrinsic Crop I then have to switch to the Crop effect.

Main Example

Crop > Transform is one of the most common effect stacks. Transform effect is used heavily because it allows Motion Blur (Motion > Position does not).

Try using Intrinsic Crop and then using a Transform effect. Currently, the entire effect stack renders and then the Intrinsic Crop is applied.
In other words, the image moves INSIDE the crop.

Same argument applies for Drop Shadows, Glows, etc.

Easy Solution

It should operate the same as putting the "Crop" effect on a clip. Here is what the render order should be.

Intrinsic Crop > Effect Stack > Motion

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Mike-Berry

Adobe Employee

Hi Nic -

This is why we still have the Crop effect. Intrinsic Crop is part of the Motion filter, and therefore executes at the last stage of the compositing stack. This is appropriate for some uses, but not for others as you note. For the others, just always putting it first is not always right either, so there will always be a place for an independent Crop filter.

_nicdean

Community Expert

Hi Mike, thanks for the explanation. This implementation is inappropriate for the vast majority of use cases. Crop is almost always the first applied effect to image/video. If a user wants Crop to render last, they can choose to put Crop at the bottom of an effect stack.

It's not a 50/50 use case. It's a 90/10 use case where Crop is used first.

Intrinsic Crop is currently more confusing to users and less useful than the crop effect. That's why I say it should be switched.

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Pelle Asselbergs

Known Participant

Hi Abhi, it would be nice to have Edge Feather also as default.

yanga18281014

Participant

Can we draw a mask and then crop within the range, just like the original crop function?
and it would be better if there is a preset that can be directly cropped to a ratio of 16:9 or 9:16.

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Richard M Knight

Community Expert

Should the crop controls be above the other fixed effects like scale and rotate as they seem to effect the croped image. rather than what's in the crop