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March 18, 2016

P: Lens metadata field missing on import

  • March 18, 2016
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Since updating Photoshop and Lightroom, I've noticed that the aux:lens metadata field is being deleted from my images on import, such that there is no lens listed after import. I've determined that it's Camera Raw 9.5 that seems to be the culprit, as lens metadata is retained if I use an older version of the DNG Converter v8.8 to import the same images.

For example, I had an image shot on a Sony RX100 III at 8.8mm. If I import this image with the old version of DNG Converter, and then open the converted DNG in Photoshop, the lens is reported with the full-frame equivalent focal lengths, i.e., 24-70mm F1.8-2.8, and the raw metadata has the correct aux:Lens field (24-70mm F1.8-2.8).

Conversely, if I import the same image directly into Photoshop or Lightroom, the metadata will display the correct focal length, but will not display the lens information; Lightroom reports this only as "unknown lens," and in Photoshop the aux:Lens field is missing completely.

For now, I will use the old version of DNG Converter as a workaround, but this is inconvenient, and really should be fixed.

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142 replies

Participating Frequently
April 19, 2016
I recovered my previous (Lr 5.7.1) library and went back to working there - thus wasting my subscription for now...
Hence my frustration!
Inspiring
April 18, 2016


Lightroom CC 2015.5. Nikon NEF files loaded after 3-12-15 do not have the LENS information in the EXiF file showing in the Library module for pictures taken with the same lens and camera. The LENS information does show in the exif files when looking at the picture on the camera. What has Adobe lost?
Inspiring
April 18, 2016
I managed to uninstall LR6.5 and installed 6.4 and then just read the metadata from file again. That solved the exif lens metadata issue. Now need to wait for the next update as 6.5 is messing up metadata.
Participating Frequently
April 18, 2016
Massively frustrated!!
I have been holding off buying CC for months but finally went for it a few days ago and now on the first import of new images I find I loose the EXIF data for the lens in the Library module. Grrrr...
Filtering my images by lens is something I do frequently, and in the case of this job, is important.
Rant Mode = Off (now)

So, Mr Adobe, went can I expect a fix? And, will it display the lens information for the images I just imported?
Thanks
Inspiring
April 12, 2016


Hello,

Not sure if this has been reported before. I always use developer view options (Ctrl + J) so I can see the common attributes and exif data. However, Lightroom is not showing lens information or the name of the lens used when choosing common photo settings / Lens / Camera + Lens / Camera + Lens setting. This was not happening before, but happening now with the 6.5 update.

Please can this be fixed in the next update?

Many thanks,

Manzur
Inspiring
April 10, 2016
As Steve posted several comments back:

Unless you need brand-new camera support, the workaround is to roll back to LR 6.4/2015.4 by uninstalling LR 6/2015 completely--but leave the preferences, don't delete them, then reinstall LR 6/2015, then the .4 update patch, both of which can be downloaded from here: 

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2013/06/keeping-lightroom-up-to-date.html#lrcc2015

IMHO, for now this is the best solution to the problem. I mean, Adobe doesn't move fast, and even if they do come up with a "fix" who know what else they may break as evidenced in this 2015.5 update?? Go back to 2015.4, like I did, and wait until Adobe fixes this. And even then, I'd wait to see what other bugs they may introduce in the next fix.
Participant
April 10, 2016
I agree, can we please stop cluttering this thread with DNG vs NEG etc discussions. I want to be informed about the fix for this and please vote to get this fix. Any other discussions are only distracting. I subscribed to this thread because I want to know when it is fixed and not get my maibox full with age old DNG vs native RAW discussions
Participant
April 10, 2016
My initial post was not about the merits or drawbacks of DNG; it was, instead, a comment about the bug in Lightroom that seems to obscure lens information. Nevertheless, the discussion about the merits of DNG is an important one. RAW formats are proprietary and closed -- the Nikon cameras I use produce NEF files that are unique to Nikon; they are hardly open format, and should Nikon go bust (which, given the declining sales of DSLRs in the face of competition from other devices, is a real possibility), the NEF format might well be orphaned. This has happened before, and with formats that we all thought at the time might have a fairly long life. (I have old Word for DOS files archived -- and these cannot be opened by current version of Word. The same is true of a host of other file formats we blithely assumed would be readable in the future.) When I print images, I seek out papers and inks that have a long life; when I create a digital image, I hope that I can anticipate some of the changes that might render my images inaccessible. The NEF format is closed and inaccessible; the DNG standard is open and published. Does that mean that DNG is always superior to NEF? No, of course not. But I want my images to be available in five, ten, or fifty years. And so I hedge my bets -- I do both. Some will no doubt groan at this profligate use of hard drive space -- but the cost is relatively small.That said, I return to the problem of Lightroom and lens information, which seems to have nothing to do with the choice of NEF or DNG, and everything to do with a bug that Adobe needs to fix quickly.
April 10, 2016
Having the checksum built in to the file format is indeed useful; knowing that a file is corrupt lets you know when you should restore an earlier version of the file from backup. The earlier you know this, the better.

You don't need to convert your files to DNG in order to do this though; I'm currently writing an application that indexes your files and keeps a database with a validation checksum for each one.
Inspiring
April 10, 2016
I agree with Matt, if a file is corrupt, it is corrupt.  All "integrity checking" does is verify the obvious.