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P: Subject Mask from previous versions are requesting an update

Forum|Forum|1 year ago
October 12, 2024
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After updating Lightroom Classic to v14 and converted my database, all the edited photos that had a "Subject Mask" applied now have an empty mask with a warning and exclamation mark (!).

If I let Lightroom correct the mask pushing the exclamation mark on a single photo, it seems the correct subject is selected, keeping the edits. If I do the same with multiple photos together it appears teh usual form that tells that the AI masks are recalculated, but at the end all the masks are still empty with warnings.

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kbarre

Inspiring

CONFIRMED POSSIBLE WORKAROUND:

I used different catalogs for each client...

I updated a different catalog. All of the Masks are broken again. If I close the app, reopen the catalog, select all, enable Auto Sync in the Develop module, choose Update AI Settings (and let it complete the process) before closing the app again.

Upon opening the catalog a third time—all of my masks are enabled.

Rikk Flohr_Photography

Community Manager

One of the Classic Team members has reproduction instructions for this issue, and we have written a bug. Thanks for all the additional details.

Workaround:

Upgrade catalog
Close LrC
Reopen LrC

If you've already upgraded your catalog, you may need to go to the "Old Lightroom Catalog" folder, retrieve your previous catalog , and perform the update using the above instructions.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

C.Cella

Inspiring

@phil_0541

To find Ai maks you need to use this Plug-in : https://johnrellis.com/lightroom/anyfilter.htm

P.s.

@johnrellis I noticed only now that there is no way to do a "generalised" search for Ai masks (of any type)
It could added so users can immediately do the search instead of adding all the Ai types.

As you know it's simple to identify Ai masks.

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JohnnyBeBad

Participant

I have the same issue. I managed to work around this / fix (let's call it that way). All my masks went to hell.

What I did was to close Lightroom, then manually copy/restore the old catalog (from the directory where upgrade process saved it) - to be specific I took two files: .lrcat and .lrcat-data

Just be sure not to overwrite your backup - do another copy somewhere, so you don't loose it 🙂

Then I opened Lightroom. It instantly asked me to upgrade the catalog (because I restored it from backup). After the upgrade (this time no error about issues with .lrcat-data), my masks were again messed up. BUT I didn't do anything, no manual updates on masks, I just closed the Lightroom completely.

Then after reopening it again - masks seem to be all good. I think they did some update in the background, because I didn't have to click anything. All went to normal.

That's how to break the upgrade process, Adobe. Fortunately it's doing backups.

Hope this helps someone. For me it worked. Hopefully I'm not the only one.

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phil_0541

Participating Frequently

@C.Cella Thanks for your answer, I'll check this plugin ! Regarding updating, would you advise not to do it and waiting until Adobe has fixed the problem ? What do you mean by "checking if the selections are good" ?

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phil_0541

Participating Frequently

What do you mean by "updating the catalog file" ? is it the same as "optimizing the catalog" ?

kbarre

Inspiring

For clarity: Opening an existing catalog in the new version updates the catalog to where it is no longer usable with a pervious version of the app.

The latest update no longer renames the catalog file. Instead, its saves a copy of the old catalog in a new "Old Lightroom Catalogs” folder.

kbarre

Inspiring

It looks like closing Lightroom Classic after updating the catalog file, and reopening it again may solve the problem.

Hmmm.

kbarre

Inspiring

I'm having the same issue, and I'm dead in the water. Why does this happen with every major update of late?

Having to revert to a previous version. Thanks, Adobe.

kbarre

Inspiring

Just updated to Lighroom Classic 14, and a single client catalog to the new version. None of my masks are sticking as I scroll through the gallery.

The masks are there, but they are disabled. I can update the masks, but every time I move to the next image and go back again, all of the masks disable, and I'm told I need to Update All again. Selecting all of the images, enabling autosync, and choosing "Update AI Settings" does not work. The dialog and progress bar complete, but the masks are not updated.

It does appear that if I scroll through each individual image, choose "Update AI Settings," and then save the metadata to the DNG file, that it is working. But I'm having to do this for every single image.

This is a SERIOUS PROBLEM. It seems like EVERY TIME there is a new version of Lightroom Classic, it kills some feature that makes it entirely unusable.

Running Sonoma 14.2 on a Mac Studio M1 Max, with 64GB RAM

jane-e

Community Expert

@kbarre

I've moved your post from Photoshop to the Lightroom Classic forum.

Jane

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AlexJz

Inspiring

For what it's worth, I reproduced it in 5mins...

Thank god I read this thread first, and exported a sample to a new catalog to try out.

FYI, there's a menu to do that in batch: Photo > Develop Settings > Update AI Settings

It just took 4mins for 19 photos... that's going to be fun to apply to a whole catalog

MacBook Pro 16’’ M1 Pro 16GB on OSX Ventura 13.1

Rikk Flohr_Photography

Community Manager

@AlexJz You can filter in the Library Filter for Develop>Has AI Mask>Yes to limit your impact.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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phil_0541

Participating Frequently

Could you please elaborate; how do you do that exactly ? I couldn't find any AI mask filter...

GoldingD

Legend

On second thought. Their are a few discussions on this (earlier). the .lrcat-data file may have issues, and replacing it may help (close LrC, delete the file in question, restart LrC)

see:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/update-ai-settings-on-every-photo-after-the-mask-has-been-copied/m-p/14835662

(about the 5th reply in that one, although for Windows)

Not sure on a MAC if you can look at and correct any file access rights to that file if it is not corrupt.

WARNING this will result in work. You will need to update ALL MASKS, and all Generative Removals will be gone.

Earth Oliver

Legend

Running on an M1 Max MBP with Mac OS v14.7.

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