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Charismatic_yogiB82A
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May 9, 2012

P: CS6 Slow compared to CS5.1 with large files

  • May 9, 2012
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PS CS6 has a lot of enhancements and great features. it launches very fast, and the control is very responsive and smooth.

although i am experiencing some speed issues with very large files. compared to CS5.1, where i don't have any of these issues.

the files are PSBs, 9000x8000px, 80+layers, RGB, 8bit

i have the same performance settings for both, cs6 and cs5
i am working on MAC PRO, 16GB ram, SSD scratch, 2TB raid, Radeon HD 5770, Snow Leopard.

the main issues i have are:

- no refresh when i move the curve on adjustment layer. the refresh comes after i let go.
- jagged pan
- extremely slow moving of layers and layer groups, even if they are with smaller dimensions (800x400pix)

again, working with files with less layers or smaller dimensions is very fast.

thanks for your help and support!
m.

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Participating Frequently
August 24, 2012
Like a majority of photoshop users I am acquainted with, I was increadibly disappointed in the immediately perceivable speed issues upon 1st launching .psd CS6.

I use two machines regularly, my 2.2 desktop with 16mb ram, new Nvidia card (machine is about 5ry old, blah blah) and my late 2011 17" Macbook Pro, 16mb ram etc.

Desktop imo has always seemed faster than the laptop, and is much preferable for image editing on etc. for me due to the set up. A typical day has me swapping between the desktop and the laptop while working on the same files quite regularly.

I remember working in .psd 5 on the desktop then reopening the same file in .psd 6 after it had been recently installed.. The most notable issue for me in .psd 6 upon the desktop is moving folders with layers – the machine just lags out, I spend so much time watching the pin wheel. One the laptop this is not an issue, it is institaneous much like .psd 5 was on the desktop.

So from following the threads and from my own experiences using the new .psd 6 – is it a given or thought that .psd 6 only works well on the Mac platform with newer CPUs and not to be recommended upgrading to for older machines?

This is just very frustrating...

thx
Participating Frequently
August 24, 2012
Can we get an update on the fixes for the "known" issues affecting CS6? Like the layer thumbnails?

CS6 was released on May 13......that's over 3 months ago. I thought with Creative Cloud Adobe was going to be more active in patching and adding to the products.

I find it ridiculous that not even a minor point release has happened in over 3 months to the flagship product!

Seriously starting to lose faith in Adobe.......they are moving far too slow. You are getting my money every month and I expect frequent updates to address known issues.

-Kevin
Inspiring
August 22, 2012
In the Type menu, Font Preview Size -> None

And there still is some problem in that Photoshop or the OS are spinning on that font instead of just rejecting it as bad/corrupt. We'll have to reproduce the behavior to figure out why that's happening.
Participating Frequently
August 22, 2012
Nope... No font management running. And as you can see from the video, the only difference in the two files is the font. I will send you the font and see if you can find something wrong in it.

Now, How do I disable Font Preview?

What I will do is make a second video, and I will disable font preview and then remove the font all together and see what happens. At least this way, I can document it for you and maybe move forward with figuring out what some of the issues are. Now, this seems to be the problem for me. Don't know what it may be for Mac users... however, as you can see, something that I thought for sure was a Photoshop problem appears to be a font problem. I will do this later today when I have an extra moment.
Inspiring
August 22, 2012
WOW, I haven't seen it that slow, even with bad fonts.

I bet you have font previews enabled...
(they can spin in the background, retrying some corrupt fonts)

Hmm, do you have any font management programs running?

Our QE might want to see if we can profile the app in the bad state.
Inspiring
August 22, 2012
If you think it's that font, send me a copy of that font file and document, and we'll dissect em. ccox (at) adobe (dot) com.
Inspiring
August 22, 2012
Well continue to work with ATI directly on the driver issues. (And I think Noel from the user forums is sending them a nastygram(TM)).
Participating Frequently
August 22, 2012
PROBLEM MAY BE SOLVED:

OK... After reading everything that everyone has had to say, I played around with things and I made this video. The issue that I am having may be related to a font. This font is called handprinting and it is a True Type Font. I really do not know why or how it could or would cause a problem, but I opened two documents in this video, both with 40 layers - one with and one without the font... and the one without the font has NO lagging issues.

Watch the video all the way through and tell me what you think...

Youtube: http://youtu.be/dV_euworDmg
Noel Carboni
Legend
August 22, 2012
Ronnie, you have to trust the fact that there are those who are not seeing Photoshop run appreciably slower or less stably than its predecessor. I'm not saying it's not an issue with the Photoshop code, but it's not a case of the Emperor's new clothes; it really does run right for some folks - I'm one.

Chris, I got a response back from ATI that they could not reproduce a Photoshop problem with ATI Catalyst 12.8. I know I have seen a problem introduced by it, with crashes easily reproduced, and that goes away again when I revert back to 12.6. Have you seen problems yourself as well with 12.8 or have you just been going on what I posted on the other forum?

-Noel
Inspiring
August 22, 2012
We can't account for all the possible hardware, driver versions, or other applications out there. Some conflicts are bound to happen. And some of the driver bugs were shipped AFTER Photoshop shipped.

Not all problems are due to the drivers, but yours sounds exactly like drawing is the slowdown, and that the problem you are seeing is directly related to your GPU or drivers.

Photoshop CS6 uses more of the GPU than CS5 did. It will find new bugs in the GPU drivers that CS5 never encountered. Yes, it can benefit from a stronger GPU, but does not require one.

Most of the slowdown reports, as seen above, are about layer movement, or font conflicts -- those have known causes. We're still trying to track down the unknown causes, but have to eliminate the known problems first.

For the vast majority of people, Photoshop CS6 is working faster and better than CS5. But a small number are seeing real slowdowns -- and a larger number are seeing problems due to out of date drivers, conflicts with other software (font managers, anti-virus), corrupt fonts, etc.