P: Shortcut keys overriding while typing

Thank you
 @Stan Jones  for the detailed steps to reproduce this. I was able to reproduce this on Windows 11, Premiere Pro 25.4.1 and 25.6.
The team has acknowledged this, and it has been reported as a bug. 
Currently, the best workarounds as you mentioned, are,

"  As noted by @morphinapg, the workaround to avoid this for now is to NOT have the text tool selected before entering edit mode - and yes, using a double-click to do so. 

Or you can edit in the Captions tab. I don't see "this" version of the bug there."

We will keep everyone posted here on any updates.
Here to help
Ian

@Flavio_St,

Yes, once clicked, the caption is selected (in the Program Monitor, the timeline, and the Text panel/caption tab).

@AnnikaKoenig @TeresaDemel In the fixed bugs with similar symptoms (delete an effect that allows Direct Manipulation and Reference monitor being open), I think the pattern was that one or two typing entries worked, then the second or third resulted in a shortcut execution. So I tried a bunch of things that might have an effect - none did. I closed the properties and graphics templates panels. I closed the text panel. I closed all panels except Timeline, tools, and Program Monitor. (The Audio meter remains open.)

The edit to the caption shows (e.g. there is a space or a comma or whatever). Sometimes, I did not see an entry in the history panel and undo has no effect, but eventually, I was unable to replicate this.

If the hotkey action appears in the history panel, it comes before the Edit Caption Text, e.g. typing "x" and move in/out operation.

I also reset preferences, cache, etc, created a new project, and tested. The problem was unchanged.

Stan

Hi Stan, yes you're right. That seems to dodge the bug, editing the caption with the selection tool (double click) instead of the text tool (single click). Although if you look closer the caption is indeed selected when I hit it with the text tool, the thing is that what you type next will be taken as a shortcut key for any command haha that's crazy

@thesujxl we encountered the problem

@Flavio_St,

Thanks for the video demonstrating the issue. So far, I have been unable to replicate. BUT I once again followed @morphinapg's description and what you show in your video, and it showed the bug. This is confusing, because when I first extensively tried this method after @morphinapg's description, I could not replicate the bug. I just did this in Beta version, 25.6.0 Build 14, and then repeated it in Release 25.3.0. I am on Win 11.

His description is "I noticed that if the mouse shows as a text selection cursor before double clicking to select the default caption, that's when the bug will most likely happen"

In your video, I can see that the Selection tool is selected, and you click on the Text tool to select it. No caption is selected. When hovering in the timeline, the cursor appears as the selection tool, but the Tool panel confirms the Text tool is selected, and as you drag the cursor into the Program Monitor, it appears as the text tool. (I tried dragging in from the bottom and from the left with the same results.) With the Text tool selected, a single click enters edit mode: the red bounding box appears, and the red insertion line appears where you click on the text.

I  hit the space bar, and it entered a space AND starts playing the timeline. If I repeat this with a selection in the Source Monitor, and hit the comma key, it enters a comma AND inserts the selection from the Source Monitor to the source patched track. I produced this 100% of the tries.

If I do NOT select the Text tool first, I must double-click on the caption, which selects it, enters edit mode, and changes to the Text tool. Under that condition, it edits correctly every time.

Stan

hasn't been fixed in latest version 25.3 and to prove it here's a quick video demonstrating how, while in the caption selection red box with typing cursor, and I hit comma, it adds an insert in my timeline! that's crazy. It's delaying my workflow a lot.

@VJ#1,

> Is there a way to turn off keyboard shortcuts 

You can create a custom keyboard, and (manually, I think) delete all the default keystrokes.

But IF you are experiencing the problem in this thread, it won't matter. What happens is that after typing a character or 2, you exit the text box and can't type in it. Then your keystrokes do whatever is appropriate for the context - often a shortcut.

Stan

@VJ#1 Unfortunately, there isn't an easy button to click to turn them all off. I also assume you use keyboard shortcuts when editing, so you do not want to turn them off forever. Something weird to try would be to save a Keyboard Layout where you've turned off most of the shortcuts and then use that layout when editing text. Obviously, this may or may not help depending on your workflow, but perhaps it is a temporary solution while we look into this more.

Is there a way to turn off keyboard shortcuts if simply typing text can trigger unwanted erasing of my work?

@VJ#1,

> F keys at the top of the keyboard which I thought were the only ones for keyboard shortcuts.

There are many shortcuts using just about all the keys on the keyboard. Edit -> Keyboard shortcuts.

Stan

@AnnikaKoenig,

There are now several reports of this problem in 25.3.0.

I cannot replicate on Win11 25.3.0. The OP in this thread is Mac, but @morphinapg is Win11. His issue was always different from the direct manipulation and the reference monitor bugs that were fixed. 

I agreed with your thought that a separate thread for the @morphinapg issue was best. But his posts had already been merged by then. This current thread is as good as any. 

His excellent description is here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/p-unable-to-select-text-or-add-new-text-with-type-tool/idc-p/14518322#M24705

His screen recording and explanation is here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-bugs/p-unable-to-select-text-or-add-new-text-with-type-tool/idc-p/14539017#M24836

Stan