Skip to main content
Participant
Jan 27, 2012 4:42 AM UTC
Open for Voting

P: Ability to invert negative scans to positives (color and black-and-white)

I would dearly like to see the Lightroom 4 Beta team implement an additional feature in the final release. That feature would be the ability to take a camera+macro lens image of a B&W negative -- essentially a camera-based scan of a negative -- and invert the negative image to a positive image at the beginning of the development process in such a way that the resulting sliders in the LR4 Develop Module would not operate in reverse. As I understand it, this capability exists in Photoshop, but I don't own Photoshop. I do own Photoshop Elements 9, but that program only supports an 8-bit workflow, not 16-bits per channel, and round-tripping between LR & PSE9 requires the reimportation of a TIFF file that is more than twice the size of my NEF RAW files. Since this programming wizardry already exists in Photoshop, I would think that it would be a relatively simple matter to transfer and adapt that code for LR4 -- but then, I'm not a programmer, so what do I know...

I've been digitizing 40-year-old Kodachrome slides from my Peace Corps days in Africa, using a 55mm Micro-Nikkor (macro) lens, coupled to a Nikon ES-1 Slide Copy Attachment, and even on a D300s body, I can get truly excellent results. I can't wait to continue that work using the pending 36 megapixel Nikon D800 body with an upgraded f/2.8 macro lens (mine is the old 55mm f/3.5 design). I really, REALLY want to be able to camera-scan my many B&W negatives without having to generate huge intermediate TIFF files.

You can respond to this request by emailing me, Jeff Kennedy Thanks, in advance, for taking the time to review and consider my request. I LOVE Lightroom 3, and from what I've seen, I'm going to love LR4 even more. I REALLY appreciate the effort that Adobe takes to solicit input from the photographic user community.

BTW, if the feature I request *can't* be implemented right away, could the LR support team provide detailed, interim instructions as to how to use the "backwards" sliders, and in what sequence? That would be very much appreciated. I'm sure many older LR users have considerable analog image collections that they would like to digitize, and doing so in-camera is both 1) of surprisingly high quality, 2) MUCH faster than using flatbed scanners and 3) of much higher quality and resolution than flatbed scan and MUCH cheaper than professional drum scans.

180 replies

Participant
Sep 29, 2026 11:59 AM UTC

I’m trying, I work in ACR in stead of LR. I can’t find where do you mean with “develop module”, in what specific section? thanks Steviem101.

Translate
JohanElzenga
Community Expert
Community Expert
Sep 29, 2026 12:06 PM UTC

ACR is what is called the Develop module in Lightroom Classic. This is a feature request however, not something that already exist.

Translate
-- Johan W. Elzenga
Participant
Sep 29, 2026 6:44 PM UTC

In Adobe Camera Raw it would be a supernice feature, that is needed.
I am referring to editing digitized negatives: a simple button (for example, where the "auto," "B&W," and "HDR" buttons are currently located) that, when activated, inverts the image so we can work with the sliders and other options normally—viewing the image as a positive rather than a negative.

Translate
Sameer K
Community Manager
Community Manager
Sep 29, 2026 10:20 AM UTC
The following idea has been merged into this idea:

All the votes have been transferred into this idea.
Translate
Sameer K
Community Manager
Community Manager
Sep 29, 2026 10:20 AM UTC
Idea merged into:

All the votes from this idea have been transferred.
Translate
johnrellis
Legend
Sep 26, 2026 2:00 AM UTC
Participant
Sep 26, 2026 1:04 AM UTC

Working with a raw capture of a negative (from a film scan or digitised negative) invert all the colours in develop module so all the sliders still work in the correct direction 

Translate
Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Jun 18, 2026 1:56 AM UTC
The following idea has been merged into this idea:

All the votes have been transferred into this idea.
Translate
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Rikk Flohr-Retired
Adobe Employee
Feb 22, 2026 7:51 PM UTC
The following idea has been merged into this idea:

All the votes have been transferred into this idea.
Translate
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Legend
Nov 13, 2025 5:40 AM UTC

If inclined to work with DSLR or Mirrorless scanned film negatives and are happy to work with them converted to TIFF positives, give the free Photoshop plugin called Grain2Pixel a try. I have found that it does an excellent conversion from my NEF files, although I would much prefer to work in a RAW workflow.

 

Translate
Legend
Oct 27, 2025 3:29 AM UTC

Adobe has lost again.

 

I see ON1 Photo RAW 2026 introduces Colour Negative and B&W Negative modes which, in the case of colour negative, inverts and removes the base colour at the very beginning of the processing pipeline.

 

Exactly what LrC users have been asking for over more than a decade and totally ignored by the Camera Raw team.

 

Adobe is rapidly being left behind to become a dinosaur of photo processing.

 

What does it take for Adobe to listen to its users and respond appropriately? Maybe their share price to fall to zero.

 

As for Negative Pro Lab, thanks but no thanks. Reading the documentation, first you have to "Convert" your RAW negatives. I read this as once converted you are no longer working on RAW files. Next, you are limited to the NPL adjustments, but if you want to use LrC, you can save a copy (TIFF or JPEG, no longer RAW) and edit that. Not a RAW workflow.

 

Translate
MarkGilvey
Inspiring
Oct 27, 2025 12:13 AM UTC

Get on their forum; it's a lively group. The first time I tried it, I had issues too, but that's behind me now. Nate, the software engineer, is also very helpful and is reachable.

Translate