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April 1, 2011
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  • April 1, 2011
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More Photoshop like clone/healing brushes in Lightroom!
I love retouching in Photoshop, especially with the content aware fill with the healing tool, but Lightrooms tools are clunky. I don't know if there are technical limitations to implementing tools like Photoshop's in Lightroom but it would be GREAT!
I would rather be able to get a baseline retouched image in Lightroom than having to edit in Photoshop and then come back to Lightroom. I would rather just use Photoshop for image alterations.

236 replies

Inspiring
April 28, 2011
I'd like to see some examples. I can't tell a difference.
Inspiring
April 28, 2011
I would really like to see a clone/stamp tool in LR. That circle brush for spot healing just doesn't cut it when it comes to needing to do blend edits on a photograph.
Let me pick a source spot on the photo and then "paint" with the healing brush while it samples the source location. This feature is in your other products, let it be in Lightroom too!

Thank you.

Inspiring
April 28, 2011
"It always launches a sub-process that scours my HDD looking for faces in photos to tag."

Just launch the editor, and not the organizer.
Inspiring
April 28, 2011
"With the LR spot-healing tool, is there REALLY a difference between the Clone and Heal options??" Yes.

"Whatever the selection between clone/heal is, is applied to ALL spot healing points on the photo, not just the one selected. " Not true at all.
Inspiring
April 28, 2011
With the LR spot-healing tool, is there REALLY a difference between the Clone and Heal options?? I've tried both, and they both seem to do the exact same thing. It appears to me that this is just a spot-CLONE tool in that it copies over whatever is inside it's sample circle verbatim. I can't see any "healing" at all.

Also, you can't mix modes on the retouch. Whatever the selection between clone/heal is, is applied to ALL spot healing points on the photo, not just the one selected.
Inspiring
April 28, 2011
I would gladly pay MORE for LR with content-aware fill and a good clone/stamp tool than have to open up TWO applications.

I have Elements, but when you run it, it's a CPU hog. It always launches a sub-process that scours my HDD looking for faces in photos to tag. I don't need that feature but my poor CPU and HDD are busily chewing up resources when all I want to do is make a minor fix.
Inspiring
April 28, 2011
Very well stated. My poor computer struggles under LR by itself, and the more healing brush points I add, the worse the performance gets. Having to open a second application reduces performance even more since both applications must be open in order for the edited photo to be re-imported back to LR. Additionally, making external edits renders the "Paste Settings from Previous" feature useless since the external edits are not captured in the LR edit history.
Inspiring
April 6, 2011
Both use a source, it's just that one (spot) sets the source automatically and one (brush) forces you to set it manually. Both essentially paint the "area", not the outline, though the spot tool only shows the outline while you are still painting.

Well, that's for Elements, anyway, as I don't have CS.
Inspiring
April 6, 2011
Thanks for supporting this, Sean.

AFAIC, it makes sense to distinguish between "spot healing" (no source required) and "source/destination healing" (PS' healing brush) and having both retouching operations would be ideal.

But what is the difference between "patching" and "source/destination healing"? PS has two different tools for this so there should be a difference. I'm not a PS user but what I gather from information available on the net, I reckon the only difference is how you make a selection. With a healing brush one "paints" the selection and with a patch tool one draws the outline of the selection. Is that correct?

If so, and if patching were supported then it would make sense to allow the "patch selection style" for other adjustments (as addressed by the adjustment brush) as well.
Sean McCormack
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Community Expert
April 6, 2011
I'm all for content aware in Lightroom.. and for non circular healing and cloning!
Sean McCormack. Author of 'Essential Development 3'. Magazine Writer. Former Official Fuji X-Photographer.