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December 14, 2022
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P: JPEG XL support

  • December 14, 2022
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Hello, I would like if JPEG XL support was added into Photoshop. It would allow me to use single format for lossy and lossless photos.

Thanks. 

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Known Participant
April 1, 2023

Yeah, but what I am talking about is using JPEG XL as working format. I need to be able to save my image including all layers separately so I can keep editing later, like it's done in TIFF or PSD. But these formats have pretty bad compression. That's why I ask about using JPEG XL (lossless) in this case. Either apply JPEG XL compression in TIFF and PSD to make files smaller or directly save as JPEG XL with layers.

sacb0y
Known Participant
April 1, 2023
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I just noticed that save as TIFF in Photoshop can use JPEG compression. Would it be possible to add lossless JPEG XL compression here? It would produce smaller files than ZIP without loss of information.

It's very anoying that TIFF and PSD files are so big, but by using lossless JPEG XL the size could be greatly reduced.

Thanks.


By @Foxtrot314

 

You can save Jpeg XL if you can manage to open the file in Camera Raw. It's already a feature just annoying to access. 

 

TIFF seemed to work well for me to open Camera Raw without an issue. 

Known Participant
March 28, 2023

I just noticed that save as TIFF in Photoshop can use JPEG compression. Would it be possible to add lossless JPEG XL compression here? It would produce smaller files than ZIP without loss of information.

It's very anoying that TIFF and PSD files are so big, but by using lossless JPEG XL the size could be greatly reduced.

Thanks.

sacb0y
Known Participant
March 22, 2023

To help remedy this problem please vote on microsoft feedback hub, i made a post about this issue for the photos, it seems the solution for Edge is comming.

https://aka.ms/AAjwn82

sacb0y
Known Participant
March 22, 2023

I've been doing a lot of research and I think whats happening is AVIF is becoming the preference due to being a smaller size (200kb avif compared to an 8mb jxl, both HDR). But like JPEGXL "viewers" are limited, it's supported on all browsers but edge (apparently it in canary tho), and it's not supported in any viewer on windows.

 

XNView MP may support it though but I dunno if it has display HDR support.

 

This is becoming a very broad problem of inconsistent format support. 

Known Participant
March 18, 2023

Hello,

I already asked here, but recieved no answer: https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-ecosystem-discussions/recommended-workflow-for-viewing-jpeg-xl/m-p/13644691

 

Can you update recomanded workflow for viewing JPEG XL? Currently it says I should use Google Chrome, but it doesnt support JXL. What is new recomanded workflow? Thanks.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/hdr-output.html

sacb0y
Known Participant
January 1, 2023

Please expand HDR support to all of photoshop this has been so frustrating I've started looking for other options. 

Participant
December 18, 2022

+1

Stephen Marsh
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 14, 2022

That would be nice, however, it will suffer the safe fate as JPEG2000 (which also offered lossy and lossless compression) without *widespread* support from ubiquitous software in all areas of consumer, prosumer and pro graphics. 

Sameer K
Community Manager
Community Manager
December 14, 2022

Welcome to the Photoshop Community. I'll clarify this for you.

 
With Camera Raw 15.1, we've recently introduced HDR Output as a technology preview, meaning the feature is still under development and not yet final. We are actively working on several areas, including support for Windows, and Lightroom, user interface improvements, and better interoperability with Photoshop and other apps.


Check this to learn more: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/hdr-output.html

 

Thanks!
Sameer K