P: Support for native full-screen mode on macOS

Yeah, Adobe seems intent on creating their own platform atop other OSs. They clearly aren't interested in adopting the UI of the platforms they develop for because they seem to have their own design language and their own rules. Ideally they want users to use only Adobe apps. I mean look at Adobe Bridge!! They tried to replace Finder for christ's sake! Remind me to cancel my Adobe CC subscription.

In case you interpret that post as me just flaming, I'm not giving up on Adobe because of this one issue, rather because of their repeated refusal to work with Windows/Mac, instead trying to bulldoze over Microsoft and Apple's HIGs while piggybacking off of their technologies. I almost wonder if they try to make their apps with ugly and inscrutable UI because they want to keep the "Learn to use Adobe apps" economy alive.

Guess the potential is binned then. Would have at least liked to have seen a beta build of this to test if it's really worse for customers or not.

Here's a couple more images to portray how productivity can improve with this functionality:

This is an image of a typical graphic designer's Adobe workflow, juggling invoices/documents, designing logos in Illustrator, adapting them to a business card in InDesign, incorporating it into a web design on Photoshop, and any other software they might need, which includes photography, video editing and programming (yes, most graphic designers can do this nowadays- in fact, it's becoming an industry standard!).


Now this is my theoretical visualization, achieved by dragging individual icons into separate desktops. While this achieves a similar effect, the practicality of it isn't the same. Regardless, these can be dragged around in Mission Control, and if you had two+ monitors, you could split these as you needed to create unique workflows.


It's a lot cleaner, it's a lot more efficient, and no functionality is lost. Users can still use Photoshop's full screen mode within the application, and users can switch between windows using any method they like. In fact, it would only make this task easier as users can reorder the positions of the windows for quicker access. As I said, if Adobe wants to make a beta release of this, I'd be more than happy to make a proper video to showcase just how helpful it can be. I'm not sure about when Lion first launched the full screen concept, but we're now three OS X updates ahead in Yosemite, with Adobe even shipping CC downloads with 2 installs (CC and CC 2014). What about keeping CC standard and give CC 2014 the full screen boost? What about a toggle in the preferences panel? Any sort of tiny step towards what many users are suggesting?

Beautiful, that's actually quite helpful, many thanks. We still do need full screen functionality though, it would still drastically improve workflow.

InDesign and Illustrator do not have Window>Application Frame enabled by default like Photoshop.

Best way is to get familiar with all of the tools and hotkeys first, then practicing making stuff that you want day after day. You'll learn a lot faster when you're creating what you're interested in.

For extravagant methods and tutorials/ideas, there are tons of websites out there too with great communities. Tuts+ is a great one to start at.

How do I learn to use a photochop?????????????????????????

We seriously need this functionality. Ever since OS X Lion introduced the full screen app functionality, it has dramatically reduced unnecessary workflow time and I know a ton of Mac users using it day to day.

I pose this simple question in retort to the reasons given to why Adobe will not add this feature in their software: what happens when a Mac user using the OS X full screen apps functionality with other apps and additionally has to use multiple pieces of Adobe software together? Graphic designers nowadays are well capable of using Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, Edge Code/Dreamweaver, Premiere Pro and Lightroom (and probably even more), and since none of these support full screen mode in OS X, we end up not being able to fully control how to lay out our applications.

Another issue is with the GUI of some of the new pieces of CC software. As a designer I'm often using Illustrator and Photoshop in tandem. As you are well aware, Illustrator CC implements a layout very similar to GIMP's before actually opening a document, meaning there's no center workspace and only sidebar info displayed. When Photoshop (or perhaps any other desktop app) is open underneath it, I consistently end up clicking into that app, thinking that I'd be interacting with the Illustrator interface. Same thing for InDesign. The image below demonstrates that example; at first glance, what application do you think I'm currently using?

I'm also confused as to how utilizing Lion's full screen mode deters users from using multiple displays and from switching between windows. OS X Full Screen dedicates an app entirely to its own dock/screen, but gestures and hotkeys all still work. That's the whole point of the full screen mode. It's only more efficient to allow the OS X full screen functionality as users could set a design environment on one monitor (with full screen Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign and Lightroom set in Mission Control), then have another side for development/rendering (with Premiere Pro, After Effects, Dreamweaver/Edge Code, Media Encoder, etc.). Users can then gesture on these two screens for the most efficient use of their time. At the moment, even with two displays, we're either using ALT+TAB or the Mission Control gesture to switch between applications. If you are not aware, ALT+TAB always shows all open applications and Mission Control always affects all monitors at once. On top of that, these applications are all cluttered on their respective desktops because they can't be nestled in the Mission Control drawer.

Which brings me to my point: three-finger gesture between apps CAN work on individual monitors! With the design/development environments I mentioned earlier, one could flick between Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign without digging through the rest of the open Adobe applications. They could also do it without disturbing the view of their secondary monitor(s), consistently leaving open render progress, testing environments or anything else they want left on a monitor. Please implement OS X full screen functionality into the Adobe software lineup, I guarantee it will save us all a great deal of time. If you want, even make a beta release and I will make a video detailing just how useful it could be. For the betterment of workflows around the globe, I'd be more than willing.

I think it is time to reconsider this and add full screen support.

I use a Cintiq which is not always connected. When it's connected it is my secondary monitor. Sadly, Photoshop loves to open every single dialogue on my primary monitor so I have to move away from my Cintiq and navigate them with my mouse, every single time. This is needless to say, highly annoying.

Having Photoshop use the OSX full-screen mode would solve this.

If you're worried about some customers missing the old method. What about adding a toggle in the settings somewhere?

I would be very grateful for this feature. :)

Edit: Oh! And in fullscreen mode like in other OSX apps the menu bar would be hidden until the mouse hits the top of the screen. Ever so slightly less screen clutter which is always a nice thing!