P: Support for native full-screen mode on macOS

John ... and how many of the "couldn't care less" crowd are even aware that a full-screen mode even exists or have ever tried it? Ignorance is bliss I guess.

"who would certainly prefer resources to be allocated to features with real benefit to the entire user base."

You mean like it took two attempts for Adobe to code PS to run natively on intel Macs? How many resources were tied up in that double dip that could have been devoted to new/improved feature development? But I'm sure that was all Apple's fault as well ... I know when I have a situation with one of my customers, they NEVER want to hear excuses ... they want results ... that is what they are paying me for. For example, don't market that an app offers tethered shooting only to blame the camera maker or the OS because it doesn't work and then feel innocent of the shortfall ...

While I think Adobe has done a fair job over the years to the point of being responsive to users input on the direction of software development ... there has also been some very troubling and disconcerting behavior recently as well that raises doubts as to what the future may hold.

Tethering is troubling for them so they blame the camera makers and/or the individual OS developers ... they introduce half developed features and expect everyone to accept a one-size-fits-all offering ... they ignore what can be important and valuable features for two or three versions completely ... not to mention the fact TH shared there were 300,000 participants in the Lr 4 beta ... why such a number of problems with the final release? I'm sure that the blame will be placed elsewhere ...

This all can raise doubts about what is going on behind the scenes at Adobe and all these seemingly insignificant details can add up over time and erode user confidence and customer loyalty ...

As someone who also uses Mac and Windows daily, I am not even lukewarm about a full-screen app. Many of the fervent posters seemingly take an attitude that all users are demanding this- they are not.

Mac is 8% of the OS makeup by an average of the 'authoritative' polling organizations. Mac has a larger share of photographers to be sure but even if density was 50% which my experience tells me is generous it wouldn't be enough. Then you would need to take out all the Macs not running Lion, then all the people who are running Lion but not using or not caring about full-screen apps.

Meaningless example: In terms of shear numbers on this forum, the Linux support request has gotten more backing.

I think engineering time could be better spent on making the application better for all users-rather than a minor augmentation for a segment of one platform.

As someone who uses Mac as well as Windows, I'm lukewarm about full screen apps. I like them on the laptop with one or two simple apps, but in general I think they're just an interesting experiment. For every customer "begging" Adobe to implement them, I'll bet there are at least as many who couldn't care less - and who would certainly prefer resources to be allocated to features with real benefit to the entire user base.

We are listening, or we wouldn't have responded by telling you why it didn't make sense for Photoshop. We are listening, or we wouldn't have spent time implementing most of the feature requests on the forum. But not everything that people request is a good idea, and sometimes there are technical issues that the end user doesn't see (like when we have to wait for an OS vendor to fix bugs or design mistakes that prevent features from being used).

You've made your request, and we heard it (hyperbole and all).

Chris, I don't think you are listening to your customers. I have read a lot of comments above from your customers begging for you guys to implement Full-Screen app and other Apple innovations; but all I hear from Adobe, except from one employee (apparently on another post because i don't see it above) is defensive posturing and complaining that your customers requesting these things are apparently not your "professional" base because we don't know anything and our requests are unreasonable You truly make us feel wanted and appreciated, not! I truly wish there were another photo editing software as good as Photoshop that adhered to Mac standards, because I would jump ship.

4) Or because many of the recent MacOS offerings are more limited than the functionality that already exists in Photoshop, or have serious shortcomings that need to be addressed before we can use them in a professional application. (hint: this is the correct answer)

I wish Adobe would support ALL of OS X's features. There seems to be only three possible reasons why they refuse to:

1) Expense.

2) Some decree from on high many years ago not to deviate one iota between the Mac and PC versions and everyone at Adobe has either bought into this mentality, or they are scared to challenge the decrier.

3) What Steve Jobs said about Adobe, which I will not repeat here, but we all know what it is.

Jeffrey, I am a long-time user; since about 1992. Please! This long-time user is BEGGING you to implement ALL of Apple's system-wide features. They are the reason I love a Mac...(except they don't seem to matter when using Adobe programs BECAUSE THEY JUST AREN'T THERE!

Yes, Dreamweaver and Mission Control is a mess. I Tab-Switch to Dreamweaver, and I am not taken to the Desktop Dreamweaver is supposed to be on. When I switch manually, I have to click somewhere or do something with the program to get my floating Files menu to appear. Very poor, indeed. (Maybe Steve Jobs was right, what he said about Adobe.)

In Apple's Full-Screen mode, the menu bar re-appears when you put your cursor at the top of the screen, pause, then push up again.