P: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

Hey gang,

The engineering team is aware of the feature request to support HiDPI for Windows. Supporting HiDPI is a priority for our team. We'll update the topic when we have more details to share.

Thanks.

Hi Lee
my "problem" is that chris is not answering anyone's questions. You yourself have said things that I have already stated in the posts he deleted. Like an option in prefs to enlarge things like the UI fonts have.

I've been trying to eleborate on why his statements are not only eroneous but imply we as customers are too stupid to understand the "the issues" at hand in enlarging the UI. My additional issue is he's systematically deleting posts that are on topic and expose his behaviour.

His answers to you and all of us above are double talk and do not directly answer, explain or justify Adobe's lack of attention and derisive comments to us on this basic UI request.

His answers have been hostile, dimissive and retorical, and span multiple threads in this forum. His go to behaviour is to attack.
In short, he's a Mod who's a troll.
The thousands I have spent on Adobe alone should dictate that as a customer I get better treatment than being bullied by a Mod with a delete happy finger to suit his own agenda.
The fact you also have likely spend thousands on Adobe should dictate you also receive better replies, and general treatment than a "there there little one - let the big boys worry about coding" replies. Like the one he just gave you.

and 3, 2, 1, my post is deleted.

That's just a method for switching the layouts -- that's the trivial part after you've done all the work for making the UI work at different scales.

Jeez, what is that guy's problem? Kinda glad that comment was deleted. I'm genuinely curious about how all this works and I appreciate you answering my questions, Chris.

I understand why scaling is tricky, for various reasons, especially Retina with the some-things-are-scaled-some-aren't confusion. What I was getting at in my question was not scaling but multiple UI configurations, similar to the way you can click a button to change between UI layouts in Bridge, or the way you can click a button to switch between a "ribbon" layout and traditional pull-down menus in AutoCAD. Why couldn't you just allow the user to switch between two UI "layouts" that were, in this case, the same layout at different sizes?

yes I see how adjusting UI font sizing in PS's preferences is a microsoft innovation that Adobe can't seem to get a handel on - let alone be able to make a seperate dat file containing largers icons for "retina displays".
Because MS wrote PS, and PS wasn't written to ignore OS scaling, or to detect retina displays.
PS is wonderful, perfect and flawless and completely works as expected all the time, and boo to the two OS's that PS has to run on that haven't changed in their cores for over a decade and continue to be so overly complicated and elusive in the abitlity to code for them that no one has any earthly undestanding of where to begin.

I understand things take time, it has only been a year since this thread started, but it's the lying that really bothers me. That's all Chris, just your lying.

There are problems with the Microsoft scaling APIs that prevent us from doing a simple percentage scaling across the application, and even make it difficult to do a 2x scaling correctly. Again, we are talking to Microsoft about this, and continuing to work on solutions. It just isn't nearly as simple as it sounds from the outside.

Chris, you mention that you're in discussions with Microsoft and that "bigger icons won't work." I'm guessing both comments refer to making Photoshop respond to Window's icon/text scaling options?

It'd be a neat feature, but isn't it insanely complicated? As you mention, it's not just icons/text but also windows and tabs that have to scale. As far as I know there is NO (non-Microsoft) program that can do that - many of my programs respond to those settings by letting resizable text disappear off the edge of fixed-size windows.

I for one would rather control it manually within Photoshop anyway. I'm not a programmer, but a checkbox in Preferences>Interface that makes toolboxes xyz% larger and switches to different/larger icon/swatch/etc assets seems a lot less stressful than waiting on Microsoft.

firstly, retina support would be nice i guess, but i want bigger icons in general.
secondly I don't understand how your posts aren't deleted for name calling.
thirdly i don't have a cause there buddy I have a request like everyone else here for Adobe to fix the issue and stop making lame excuses.
fourthly, again, I'll put my experience against yours any day :)

addendum, perhaps you should try wiki or google or maybe even bing to update YOUR concepts of things since the rest of the world already has these enlargement options. Maybe I have no earthly grasp of Adobe Code because it's so poorly written?

Because using the Retina display is not just about switching icons.
Because MacOS tries to do a lot of the UI scaling, and any UI scaling done in the application has to exactly match the OS.
And because icons only account for about 5 percent of the UI.

If you want the feature, just ask for the feature. We've already said plenty of times that we're working on it.

But trying to reverse engineer something you have no earthly understanding of, and trying to tell experienced engineers who do know what is going on how to do their job -- is really not helping your cause.

cuz if you can "auto detect" a retina monitor and load the larger icons, why can't we have a check box for a manual option
- you know, like the check box to use my massive video card here... how is it easier to "auto detect" a retina display to auto choose icon sizes than it is to detect an HD5870 to use OpenCL?