P: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

Fantastic way to treat a paying customer.
You're embarrassing yourself with all the deleting.

I made posts with facts about the issue at hand, and you keep deleting them yet making comments about them. You keep posting comments about things we are not talking about.

Yes bigger icons would work, and retina support requires that Adobe make them, Adobe has, now offer that for regular monitors because as retina or regular - the. icons. are. too. small.
Fact: PS and other Adobe apps don't follow the OS rules for drawing windows and other elements.
Fact. Because of this we cannot enlarge things through the OS's native preferences. Example : "Ribbon icons enlarge when we ask windows 7/8 to "change size of all items" (control panel/display/ select a size)

Fact. retina displays are simply double density and higher screens, and require "larger" density icons to make the same "perceived" size across all/any monitor.
- so if an image is a half inch on one monitor it's a half inch on the other - but the image size is x pixels on a normal monitor and xx pixels on a retina.

Fact: you say PS 13.1 has retina support, therefore it has higher density icons that would be larger on a normal monitor.

Let us have those icons for our tool bars on our normal 72/96 dpi monitors.

Please.

actually, as I sit here examining code in PS and Illustrator, I can plainly see Adobe is following very little of the "windows" interface rules. There's quite a bit of frankencode in here.
So you know what Chris?
You're absolutely right, I'm making a lot of guesses working under the assumption you guys are playing by the OS rules, knew what you were doing, and open to suggestions.
As I see here, plainly not on all of the above.

So perhaps it really IS too complicated for Adobe to make "Bigger Icons".

I can't even right click a title bar to get a simple "close" command.

Now that I'm looking under the hood, I don't know whether I should be appalled, be embarrassed on Adobe's behalf, or feel robbed.

Then again, you guys went and reinvented all the interface rules, so really you SHOULD be able to make "bigger icons".

I would have though fixing these primary school basic issues would be more important that releasing a new photoshop with "bigger icons" for only subscribers.
Might wanna rethink that and offer it to the people who paid full price huh?
'Cuz me thinks they won't be doing that again.

Adobe seems to be very confused over what this thread about.
Since I have called out Chris twice, I shall do it again with all the information - in plain english so that he can know how uniformed I am.

Our issue is "in app icon sizes are too small" and there is no way to enlarge them - Adobe is saying the issue is resolved for retina displays on Macs and microsoft windows code is magically suddenly too complicated to implement an enlargement feature.

For those of you using Firefox, Chrome, Safari and most versions of IE, I direct you all to your tool bars. Please right click, "customize" - as if you're going to add or remove the feature icons like "back or search or etc." and click the options to "use large/small icons" - with or without text, and so on and you can plainly see that free web browsers can do what Adobe cannot.

Now then.
Icons, and icons in other things like your windows (finder). You can have your OS of choice enlarge all icons and text and it affects for most run of the mill software as well. But almost all Adobe apps ignore these options that are built into the OS because they want you to use their interface.
One would guess that this is so that all their apps "look and feel the same".
That's a fail too by the way Adobe, but hey, that a whole other thread.

Let's lastly look at what the "retina display is" - it's a display that simply had "double" the pixel density. So for ease of everything I shall use "iPhones" for reference and their icon sizes to illustrate our issue - and Adobe's "stonewalling" solution.

A regular iPhone 3G has fingertip sized icons that are 57 pixels across.
A 4 or 5 iPhone has the SAME perceptually sized icon of "one fingertip large" BUT the screen has twice the density. So this means developers needed to scale up their imagery 2x.
So on a retina display that makes the same perceptual finger tip icon 114 pixels wide.

Adobe may have provide support for retina displays, but "all they did" was enlarge everything 2x. So for all their efforts of "actually being able to make icons larger" they stopped at making them look identical on a 17" retina side by side a 17 normal monitor.

Sure the retina display looks much much nicer - but the icons are still the size of your finger tip.

So Adobe (we meet again)
It's very nice that you have made the same perceptually sized icons for retina displays. When illustrator works on my iPad, I'll thank you, but I still won't be able to use it because the icons are small. By too small I mean exactly the same size as an my non retina display which are, um, too small.

Since you have actually proven you can enlarge icons on the user interface, please enlarge them again and give us the option to "enable ":regular / large" in prefs since you cannot seem to use the built in OS ability to do this.

You see Chris, I'm not uninformed (I love the "reasons" you deleted my posts - side by side the "forum rules I didn't break) and I'm not stupid, and I'm again "calling you out" and any one else in your office who thinks that any of your responses over the last 24 hours - and earlier this year were in any way honest.

Simply offering Retina Support PROVES that you can make larger icons.

What simply baffles me is why Adobe would rather belittle, lie and fight a common sense and useful request than simply saying hey, yeah, we can do that, it's not like you're asking use to add a permanent save location for creative cloud files.

You're making a lot of bad guesses based on very incomplete information.
And "bigger icons" won't work.

13.1 is the subscription/creative cloud release.
13.0.4 has the same Retina support, without the new subscription features.

How do I get version 13.1 for Mac
I bought CS6 in February and it says 13.0.4 is the latest version update?

I concur.
I was surprised at the removal as well as it's not like we don't get email notifications containing the comments, so like it or not, it's out there.
Interestingly, there is a photo above of photoshop on windows 8. Note the "title bar" "X" close/minimize buttons of PS compared to the "close" button of the preferences window.

You can plainly see Adobe has modified the windows interface to display it's own "glass button style" to the windows window, and did not apply this to the preferences window.

This means Adobe itself is creating the interface icons - not Microsoft.
It's also why we can modify our windows with "desktop themes".
MS just gives us a shell to work with.

I'm tempted to edit the adobe icon files with larger icons to simply prove the point it can be done. But without additional coding skills, I have to way to make a preference to "switch back and forth" - but I may be able to make two "large and small" files that I "rename" prior to launch.

some of us saw it before the defensive removal. Adobe's focus is on becoming
an online only fee based resourse. They may eventually fix this problem, but
marketing matters more than users health or comfort. CC is a marketing masterpiece- what used to be updates and bug fixes is now exclusive buyer content.

Chris, removing my post about your lie, simply proves your comment is a lie.

It was on topic and neither inflammatory nor argumentative, and did not violate any forum rules.

that is a blatant lie.
you can simply make larger icons.
photoshop - and any other interface on the planet needs only to fit within the "window" boundaries.
Menu text can be enlarged via the the system font size options - but NO Abode has proprietary font controls, so YOU are responsible for the inability for ALL adobe apps not having the same feature as PS does for font enlargement - not microsoft.

I can make illustrator "object handles" marginally larger in prefs, albeit that is poorly implemented as well - but PLAINLY I can use a preferences within illustrator, MADE by Adobe to make something BIGGER

so there is absolutely no reason why you can't add the option for larger icons for the tools as well as a preference "switch" large vs small.

I swear you guys spend more time trying to come up with excuses than you do solutions.

And apparently you think we're all idiots.