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July 24, 2011
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P: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

  • July 24, 2011
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I'm using a high resolution monitor(2560x1600). As a result, all the the toolbar fonts and menu fonts are small and hard to see. I do not want to lower the screen resolution as this would defeat the purpose of this monitor.. Will the new CS6 have the ability to increase font sizes to accommidate Hi-Res monitors?

Thanks

Ron Acevedo

886 replies

Inspiring
February 20, 2013
I'm glad this topic is still getting comments. We need to keep reminding Adobe that this should be one of their highest priorities.

Can anyone explain to me why this is even a big deal? It seems to me the assets necessary for a larger interface have ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED for Retina and all Adobe has to do is give the rest of us access to them.
Axiom DeSigns
Participating Frequently
February 20, 2013
I knew what you meant about the monitor. I meant smaller.
Lowering my resolution to 1024x768 is not a solution, it's smaller (less screen space) and very grainy because it's not a native resolution you see.
Using a 30" monitor with a native 1920x1080 resolution at 3ft away also would be grainy and uncomfortable.
Using a smaller native monitor like a 15 or 17" at 1024x768 would be a solution, but I'd have less "real estate" to work in again, and it would make my images too small to see the finer details i need to change "as a whole" without a lot of zoom-in-and-out-ed-ness

So, it would be easier for everyone involved to have an option to enlarge the UI elements.

I'm pretty sure we all know how to use our monitors and eyes.
I also don't know why "see a doctor" is the popular retort to people wanting larger UI elements.

Actually, for all the naysayers, why is it never the developer's issue? Are all UI's perfect out of the box? No.
That's why we're saying - Hey, this could be tweaked a bit please.

Thanks for the Illustrator tip.
Whats interesting is that I knew it was there - but never noticed what the difference was in the choices - until I really looked just now at your suggestion.
Then while laughing, I used the snipping tool and fired up photoshop.

Using my 20/20 vision (pretty good considering I'm 41) and zoom on photoshop and have to say that the 4 pixel handle on "small" compared to the 7 pixel handle on "large" is a wonderful improvement - at 600%.
You can barely notice a difference - and these remain at that size regardless of how large you magnify your paths. Instead of slightly enlarging as you go.

I'm not even going to bother going into the fishing you have to do to get the type on a path handles to appear.

First thing in the morning it's fine once the coffee kicks in, but by lunch, man my eyes hurt. Because the icons and stuff are too small.

Our design projects are only getting larger, so we need large monitors, so we should also be able to have a large UI option.
Community Expert
February 20, 2013
"try to use a smaller monitor or sit closer".
I did not mean smaller monitor, just lower ppi. That could be the same pixel count you already have (like 1920x1080), but on a larger monitor. That IS a one working solution (or at least work-around) to the problem "it's too small for me to see". I was providing options for Herman that can be used right now, while waiting for a future version of the CS.

It's not the best solution in many cases (especially since we want higher ppi monitors), but it's the only one available right now besides the "UI Font Size" option in CS6.

Ps: Regarding anchor size in Illustrator CS6; you can make them slightly larger/easier to see under Preferences > Selection & anchor display (choose the rightmost option).

If your eyesight is bad, see an optician to make sure you use optimal glasses/lenses. This can make a big difference as well.
There are other things to consider as well to avoid headaches and strain when working on a computer monitor (like screen brightness and white balance).
Axiom DeSigns
Participating Frequently
February 20, 2013
yes, this is partially possible in Photoshop, and you can also change the font size in windows to affect menu items - but the icons, and other UI buttons do not enlarge.
In Illustrator for instance none of this is possible - and worse, when you zoom - in the hopes of having larger anchor handles, they scale to remain at their set tiny size...
"try to use a smaller monitor or sit closer" is not the correct solution.
Community Expert
February 20, 2013
In CS6 go to Preferences > Interface, and change the "UI Font Size" at the bottom to "Large". That's all you can do until a newer version comes out.

Optionally try to use a monitor with lower ppi (width in pixels / width in inches = ppi), or sit closer to it.
Participant
February 20, 2013
Unlike the twenty something year old engineers at Adobe, my eyes are not as good as they were - along with most everything in or on my body. I simply cant read those itsy fonts or icons without getting a headache please tell me how to jack the icon an font size up.

Participant
February 18, 2013
I have spent a lot of time learning photoshop but my eyes are aging. When is Adobe going to fix the icon and font issue? I think I can still take my edition back to Costco but if I can't, I will eat the cost and go look for some alternative I guess. Adobe, are you brain dead on this issue?
Axiom DeSigns
Participating Frequently
February 18, 2013
^ lol

well that escalated quickly

I run three monitors, and soon, I'll be swapping out the middle for a 30". I'm not looking forward to needing binoculars.

if we didn't need to enlarge things, one wonders why they even bother wasting UI space with zoom. Or you know, simply use the existing windows UI sizing options, as why reinvent the wheel?
Inspiring
February 18, 2013
Having just spent a huge amount of money on Adobe Suite CS6 and also upgraded to a Retina Mac I find it hard to believe Adobe can be so small minded as to ignore what is a blatant case of serious human rights infringement.

Millions of graphics and web professionals are being forced to compromise their visual health by squinting at tiny UI text far too small for the extended hours that we have to endure.

Adobe has a MONOPOLY on industry standard software and as such should be forced to offer a usable version which is not detrimental to the health of millions of professionals.

Where is the printers union when you need it?

Has anyone seen a single response from Adobe?

THIS SITUATION NEEDS AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT ON THE BASIS OF HUMAN RIGHTS INFRINGEMENT.
Inspiring
February 18, 2013
The word for the concept at issue here is ergonomics. Customers should be able to scale UI size to suit their comfort level, whether due to a physical impairment or not. When we buy professional software to use on professional hardware, we expect both to be ergonomic. Why? Because we spend up to eight or more hours a day using them.