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July 24, 2011
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P: Support scalable user interface UI for high resolution monitors

  • July 24, 2011
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I'm using a high resolution monitor(2560x1600). As a result, all the the toolbar fonts and menu fonts are small and hard to see. I do not want to lower the screen resolution as this would defeat the purpose of this monitor.. Will the new CS6 have the ability to increase font sizes to accommidate Hi-Res monitors?

Thanks

Ron Acevedo

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Community Expert
July 31, 2012
I think we all agree here. Adobe should consider people with poor eyesight - as well as the new generation of high ppi monitors. OS X Lion and Windows 7 have already taken steps in this direction; now the individual programs should follow.

The creative suite has about 20 programs in it, and it's probably no small task to make all the interfaces scale well. That being said they should have enough time to get this done before CS7 (by then it will probably become a big issue).
I don't expect us to hear anything else from Adobe until then (~1-2 years).

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The monitors you mention (27" @ 2560x1440 = 109 ppi) are quite normal today. Judging by the hand you hold up as well, this looks perfectly normal (not only for Photoshop but for all programs). If you can't read the menus in Photoshop on this monitor you will also have trouble in most other programs as well as on websites (unless you enlarge them). The UI font size in Photoshop is actually the same as text on this website. This is not something to yell about.

So, today's UI on your current monitor should not be a problem (assuming you don't use VGA). If it is hard to read you are sitting too far from the monitor (or you have poor eyesight).

Ps: PPI of the monitor and view distance is what matters here. Monitor size in cm and pixels is just useful for calculating the resulting ppi.
Community Expert
July 31, 2012
Since it says "under consideration", and the only Adobe reply is that they can't comment on specifics regards to future versions. We will just have to hope that this means that they are working on it.
Inspiring
July 31, 2012
This Adobe UI Issue remains unaddressed after twelve months since first identified here; and in the meantime, a new issue of software has been released with the same problem as well. Ostridge Adobe still has its head in the sand and continues to claim that the sun is not shining while the beach gets hotter and hotter.
Participating Frequently
July 30, 2012
I am quite tired of hearing arguments that support the ignored scaling issue. I have a Dell 27" HD monitor AND a cintiq 24 HD, the software loads a large scalable interface that is STILL TOO SMALL TO WORK WITH!!!!!! HELLO!!!! I cant sit here and believe any excuses why it should be ok to use when a current version of Photoshop Elements has a large enough scalable interface, I tried it, it looked great on my Dell 27 inch HD , so WHY NOT DO THAT ON CS6 PHOTOSHOP EXTENDED etc., etc.,.....I'm sorry, but whatever the code, instructions, or data needed for a professional app needs, you mean you cant look at Elements and comp that in the build for CS6? Its totally possible, they know it. Now they should work on an update that works for our type of HD monitors that have a 2560 x 1440 display whether its a 94, 109, or 220ppi resolutions. There are different contexts which decsribe resolution and we need to adhere to all of them or at least the pixel count in heighth and width and then ppi...
Check out the image below, just to give you an idea of scale, I took a picture w my iPhone of my Cintiq 24 HD and my hand right up on the screen. Doesnt it look like the tool bar icons are too damn small,..it would be nice to set them as large as the panel options are as large in the Layers panel, for example...

So, to sum up the most important facts, if Elements can do it on my 27 inch Dell why not Photoshop CS6, if the panels have options to increase their size, why cant the tool bar icons or the menus.

Adobe, please heare me, I truly rely on this app and its paint tools and I dont want to spend time learning others.

Thank you.

Participating Frequently
July 30, 2012
I am quite tired of hearing arguments that support the ignored scaling issue. I have a Dell 27" HD monitor AND a cintiq 24 HD, the software loads a large scalable interface that is STILL TOO SMALL TO WORK WITH!!!!!! HELLO!!!!
Inspiring
July 30, 2012
The Adobe UI is way too small for today’s graphics workstation monitors and it is not scalable to meet users' needs as well. There is no defense for not fixing the problem except for more weasel words.
Community Expert
July 30, 2012
I'm not convinced by your argument, but by the time CS7 comes it will be noticeable. Monitors above 200 ppi will become more common. Hopefully Adobe will put some effort into this.

-- A bit off-topic addressing your eyes:

To make sure we mean the same by "resolution". What is the actual ppi of your monitor? (number of pixels across / width of monitor in inches).

A typical 1920x1200 24" monitor is ~94 ppi.
Apple's 27" Thunderbolt display (2560x1440) is 109 ppi.
Professionals won't have much higher resolution than that on their main monitor (and I assume they don't work off a laptop screen).

Unless your monitor has a significantly higher ppi than this (like the Macbook Pro with retina display - 220 ppi) then the resolution should not be the cause of your pain. There are many other factors that contribute to eye strain.

Good lighting is essential (and NO sunlight), as well as a monitor brightness (and temperature) to match your surroundings (if you monitor brightness is maxed, something is not right). I believe overly bright monitors is a common issue.

Another question is viewing distance and how much you concentrate on the monitor. Look off into the distance now and then to let your eye muscles relax. - And check your eyesight to really make sure that glasses won't help.
Not blinking enough is also a known problem when working on a monitor. Eyes get dry - and start to hurt. Remember to blink and take breaks.

(I've had my share of eye pains...)
Participating Frequently
July 30, 2012
C'mon, Adobe. These responses are more than just a few disillusioned Photoshop users. With all those unique algorithms you design, surely you can give us a menu we can read. Please.
July 30, 2012
It is already a huge problem.

Photoshop is a costly design program for professionals, meaning that most of it's users already have high resolution monitors now. I do not require any glasse and my vision is perfect, but after even 2 hours on Photoshop my eyes are starting to hurt.
Community Expert
July 30, 2012
With current monitors that have around 100 ppi the current interface is not a problem (for people with normal vision).

However; on the next generation monitors (like Apple's "retina") starting to push almost 300 ppi Adobe must be prepared to make adjustments.

The interface will have to be truly scaleable, or (probably easier/better) have preset sizes to choose from (double and triple the current size).