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January 24, 2023
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Option to remove new Header Bar (22.3) from window

  • January 24, 2023
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I'm a shortcuts person, and I like customizability. Please make the new Header Bar feature of Version 22.3 optional. I have no use for any of the buttons or information on the header, all of which are redundant and can be accessed either through the toolbar or via keyboard shortcuts. I appreciate that the Header may be convenient for new Premiere users, but for power users it is wasted screen real estate.

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Jeff Schaap11773923
Known Participant
January 24, 2023
Adobe, why would you make a bar that can't be turned off? You're taking away choice from experienced users. I'd MUCH rather have the screen real estate.
Mr. Wallet
Known Participant
January 24, 2023
There's some problems here even for people who don't want to completely remove it.

I am perturbed that the only way to see my workspaces is way off to the right in an extremely low-contrast font. (also, hard to find: just see issues like "Please put workspaces BACK in the top Header Bar"). I have an IPS display so the darks suck, especially when I lower the brightness for night-time (I don't need great color fidelity 100% of the time, and your dark theme should still be readable when I don't).

I recently finished a 200-hour project where I spent less than an hour importing things and less than 10 hours playing with export settings. Why do I need home/import/edit/export at the top left? This isn't optimized for how I work. In the old set-up, I could just have the 3-4 workspaces I actually use at the top and the rest was uncluttered. Why would you remove UI features when the current paradigm could have fit in the old components?
Participant
January 24, 2023
Also is annoying
Known Participant
January 24, 2023
I agree with all of the comments here. We need BETTER use of screen real estate, especially now that, more than ever, we can edit on the go with laptops that have extremely limited screen real estate! Rather than listen to logic (and us users), it seems Adobe is **** bent on making things worse, rather than better. I doubt a single professional Pr user ever asked for this new header bar. And yet many professionals are asking for to option to hide it. I asked for it to be optional while it was in beta. Any appeal to good sense appears to have fallen on deaf ears.
Participant
January 24, 2023
This is extremely important to me and many others for the reasons described in the post and the comments. Any feature that's there to help new users and doesn't do a SINGLE new thing (the "Header Bar" does not in fact, do 1 single new thing at all) should be possible to remove. Because all this update does for let's call it advanced users, is remove space to edit on. Even new users will learn the old way to export and import is faster and they will want to remove it, too. So give back the edit space! Thank you.
Participant
January 24, 2023
Confusing for a first time user (edit under edit), and annoying for a power user (real estate)

Please remove or add the option to hide.

Also add Kern ability back to text! lol... just sayin.
Nick Lear
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
Please!!!
Nick Lear
Inspiring
January 24, 2023
Please!
Participant
January 24, 2023
Adobe.
Please do this.
Please stop adding more and more empty space to the Premiere Pro User Interface.
I literally use a 43", 4k, $1,000 monitor, and a multi-thousand dollar custom-made, 32" inch deep desk to put it on, ENTIRELY so that I can run the entire system at 100% UI scaling, which I need to do, because of just how much empty and wasted space there already is in Premiere Pro specifically.
Just so you all understand, that setup is the equivalent of using four 1080p monitors stuck together.
And then I still need a few more monitors off to the sides for all of my bins. But that's more of a me thing. I like to have a lot of bins open.
To save screen space, I have removed as many icons as possible from the left side of the timeline. I've turned off "show markers" on the program and source monitors. I used to remove all buttons ("show transport controls") from the source and program monitors (before switching to the bigger screen.)
However, I cannot remove the bottom-most bar that is ONLY used to tell me what's being loaded or what's going wrong. I cannot save any space by removing the bars and buttons at the top and bottom of bins, respectively. My program monitor is the only panel on its part of the screen, but I can't remove all the empty space on its top bar, either.
I never click on the Tools panel anymore, so I don't really need it, but I like being able to look at it to learn what tool Premiere THINKS I am using. And it mostly wastes horizontal space, which isn't so bad... it's the vertical space that is so valuable. I need room to see multiple timeline tracks, and I absolutely hate scrolling the timeline up and down all day.

This new header bar wastes a ton of vertical space.

I remember a version of Flash where literally a third of my laptop screen was taken up with various top bars, for panels within panels, even if there was only one panel within a panel. I wish I'd taken a screenshot. It was absolute madness. They reigned it in after that version. That was over 10 years ago, and it seems those lessons have been lost.

For everyone's benefit, I looked through every single console command, comparing it to the previous list that I exported using optical character recognition:
https://pastebin.com/uKr6YrrG

(I'm not uploading the most recent one, it's pretty rough.)

I didn't find any new entries in the console that corelated with turning off this new header bar. Sorry. Most of the new entries are things like
AudioSuppotMonitorMixer.SetAudioChannelMatrixProcessorDelay
which have nothing to do with the UI.

What's this console, you might ask? Well, if you press CTRL F12, click the triple lines and select "debug database view," you get a ton of secret options that are not found in the usual preferences panel!

Adobe hates it when anyone talks about this. People use it to set FE.AllowMultipleOpenProjects to FALSE, and Adobe, after claiming it was not possible to do this, deleted a ton of threads on the forums that talked about it. I can only mention it here, because Adobe does not run Uservoice.

WARNING! Don't mess around in the console. Seriously. You'll corrupt your copy of Premiere. And then you don't get to whine to tech support about it. The ONLY setting I feel comfortable changing in there, is the aforementioned FE.AllowMultipleOpenProjects.

Anyway. I tried. I suspect this post won't get an official response, because I mentioned the console.

Adobe, give us the option to get rid of the Header Bar. And start REDUCING the amount of wasted and empty space... don't add to it.

While I'm on the topic, thank you for the feature where we can press CTRL \ to remove the title bar. Whoever added that, understands our plight.
Participant
January 24, 2023
Start referring to the update as "Ugly Sonic." Maybe that will clue in Adobe to what they could gain by listening to their customers. The movie producers listened and salvaged a franchise.