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Eccentric Locust
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April 4, 2018
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Support AV1 Video Encoding and Decoding

  • April 4, 2018
  • 225 replies
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AV1 has been becoming a more and more popular codec for not just streamers, but also content creators and filmmakers. Video hosting platforms, such as YouTube, are now implementing AV1 as a way to easily stream video content to audiences at lower bandwidths. Filmmakers, and especially content creators, are asking for AV1 for creating high quality content without too much compromise for file sizes and ease of use when viewing.

 

Having the benefit of AV1 video will help with preserving the best image quality at a much smaller and efficient file size than codecs like H.264. HEVC/H.265 is supported in Premiere Pro and it's a very nice codec. In fact, both HEVC and AV1 perform very similarly. However, it would be wonderful to have the flexibility of additional codecs that are gaining traction in modern media.

 

HEVC isn't supported everywhere, largely due to their licensing slowing down adoption. Meanwhile, AV1 is open source, so it would be easier to adopt without the concern for licensing; thus, making it more popular with platforms than HEVC.

 

Competing video editing platforms have also supported AV1 encoding and decoding for some time and I have been wanting Adobe to look into it for a while.

 

Overall, I highly recommend Adobe include AV1 encoding and decoding support for Premiere Pro. I strongly believe it will heavily encourage more people to create the best content with a codec that is extremely efficient as it is excellent at preserving image quality.

225 replies

Participating Frequently
October 16, 2024

Is just not true that AV1 is heavier in the processor. Is about the chip used. On Nvidia RTX 4000 series AV1 is way faster and lighter on the hardware than H264 and H265. 

kalamazandy
Known Participant
October 16, 2024

Mismatching audio, for sure, can't be used for doing an audio mix...sort of. Adobe could handle it several ways. The most obvious would be to highlight mismatching audio so the user knows that they would be able to understand Some information from the proxy, but shouldn't go adjusting different settings of individual channels for the audio. There are some easy one also like if the original has no audio, but your proxy has audio channels. Ignore them automatically, or at Least do a check for data. Yeah, there's an audio stream, and it's completely silent, so go ahead and ignore it. Maybe just warn me if the original has no audio, but my proxy does? And Still let me use it if I want to. Maybe someone decided to create a proxy of the original video and include the lav mic audio in it or something just to use as a stand-in for something else. That could be a good idea, maybe that works for them. I just wouldn't do something like that because "that's not the way people work with premiere." I get Canon footage all the time with 4 channel audio and only 1 is being used. So my proxy Has to have matching audio. Again, those 3 channels are garbage because they are silent. Adobe Could have a method of flagging silent tracks and allow mismatches for them. In fact, I would Prefer to let it spend the time to check for audio signal on ingest and automatically remove them (as an option). If someone mistakenly recorded a mic to stereo audio and it's only on one channel, it would be great if I had the option of just eliminating the right channel and treating left channel where there actually was signal as mono. I have to change that manually in Premiere AND leave the original alone, OR run it through ffmpeg to change the stream of the original, which I don't have time to do 99% of the time and wouldn't trust someone that does have the time to do that kind of task. 

Again, this should just be optional. I'm sure some people Do want to keep the original audio format even when it isn't used, or if the video file was S&Q so has no audio stream at all then they have some process that requires their proxy file to Also have no audio streams. I don't know why that is useful, but it very well could be for someone, and the software should support that workflow. 

MyerPj
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 15, 2024

Indeed, AV1 is more processor intensive than even h.264/5. Exactly what we don't need.

 

Participant
October 15, 2024

I could probably join, but I can't find the benefit of widespread AV1 support. This is a very slow codec that requires the latest hardware solutions. While there is no translation function, no voice cloning, and many advanced things needed to create content, codec support without an alpha channel does not seem so urgent. For the rest, there is webm with VP9.

Participant
October 15, 2024

Hello Adobe, its nearly 2025. Even my iPhone supports AV1 nowadays. Every Recording Program on Windows Supports AV1, so why is not implemented in Premiere Pro? Makes 0 sense to me.

Known Participant
October 12, 2024

AV1 is not a priority because it's not very used at the moment.

 

It took years for H265 to be supported, because while the end result offered much better results than H264, it wasn't used in terms of production.

 

And it still really isn't as much as one would think, but smartphones manufacturers started using it so they had no choice but to implement it, given in the news industry using footage made with phones is very common.

 

DaVinci does implement AV1 because being at the forefront of 'new sh*t' is kind of their shtick in terms of its NLE capabilities. But we all know the ProRes Raw fiasco, which really should make any editor weary about it.

 

And ProRes RAW is one of the most friendly formats out there to speed up production, and it's a really problem DaVinci doesn't support it, especially for it's 'real' function. 

R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 11, 2024

Everything is done by priority in something this big and complex. Everything. And they don't hire temp outside teams to write crucial internal code that could fry the whole thing. 

 

AV1 is simply not that heavily used, across the user base, as you might think it is. Would I like it being included? Of course, no question there.

 

But I also understand they have a ton of users all with different workflows, and work to the larger interests/needs. Get to smaller things as time becomes available.

 

I'm very familiar with that, as in my own business for many years, we also had to prioritize things. And not always to my liking even as the owner. But business decisions need be based on hard data.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
October 11, 2024

Excuse me, but I believe it is not a matter of priorities. It is hard to imagine that Adobe lacks the resources or funding to hire a temporary team to implement AV1 in Premiere, even if it is just for importing videos. This appears to be an executive decision based on reasons that are not publicly known. However, it is disappointing that an open-source encoder/decoder, developed in collaboration with Adobe, has not been made available four years after its release.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 11, 2024

Read the above comments.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participant
October 10, 2024

Still no av1 codec for PP? 2024...