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Discussion about smartphone photography.

  • March 29, 2023
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This is for Abambo. Reply, maybe I am just to hard on you because I expect something more precise, I've got master degree in fashion photography and if someone is blunt as you guys and so snobbish. 

 

 I think this is saying exactly something about you. You just take something out from contest and reply with additional rudeness. 

Read it please.

https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones-vs-cameras-closing-the-gap-on-image-quality/

Just use Google for research, to find out how it all works, it is all there. This link is from 2020, it is already two years ago, that is a lot for technology.

 

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Correct answer Henrik Heigl

Hi,

 

this is a support Community. Do you have any specific question regarding Stock Contributions? If you have a specific question about an answer, you always can DM People here.

Also, please stick to the netiquette and the Guidelines https://community.adobe.com/t5/using-the-community-discussions/adobe-support-community-guidelines/td-p/4788157 . Hope that helps.

 

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Ricky336
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March 30, 2023

Hello @.....assa ,

You linked to an article 'Smartphone vs Cameras:  Closing the gap on image quality

Just a small point, but smartphone cameras are actually digital cameras, aren't they? They capture a digital image!

The question really should be, 'how does the sensor size make a difference in digital photography?'

.....assaAuthor
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March 30, 2023

No, the post was also about rudeness, look for the recent specification, the post was from 2020.

Abambo
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March 30, 2023
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This is for Abambo. Reply, maybe I am just to hard on you because I expect something more precise, I've got master degree in fashion photography and if someone is blunt as you guys and so snobbish. 

 


By @.....assa

Congratulations on your masters degree in fashion photography. I have a degree in microelectronics. I know something about sensors, transistors, resistors, condensators, tunelling effects, signal timings... And nothing of that is relevant to image quality. But it helps understanding the physical limits of certain technologies. 

 

Your article does confirm, what I say here on this forum. Smartphones are an impressive piece of technology, but at the end of the day, the quality is not good enough for stock. 

Quote: With Portrait Mode, the background is nicely blurred, with only a few artifacts (such as in the woman’s hair).

Those artefacts disqualify the image for stock, but not for other uses. 

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You clearly see, why the smartphone assets should be refused for stock. Are the results impressive? Yes. Are they good enough for stock? No.

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The Huawei picture could eventually pass, the Samsung clearly shows washed out details, the full frame camera is clearly better. For all three, the light was probably optimal. Light is a different aspect that smartphone photographers often forget. When doing portrait, I have a studio quality flash system. You need half an hour to put up the equipment and get the settings right. Also here, size matters. 

 

(As a side note: when you want to tag someone here, you should use the at-character. Like @.....assa, that comes into your feed, and you know, that someone tagged you. Not that it matters, but I would have missed this interesting discussion, If she hadn't been conducted so passionately.

As a second side note: to help others following your reasoning on me being snobby, you should include the link to the original discussion, so that everybody can follow-up your reasoning. https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock-contributors-discussions/hi-everyone/td-p/13675047)

 

 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
jacquelingphoto2017
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March 29, 2023

Hi @.....assa ,

I am trying to understand the relevance of your post with Adobe's Stock requirements. Each entity has a right to specify what it wants to accept as against what it will reject. Adobe has it guidelines that we must all follow if we want to be successful contributors. I did not participate in your course, but I participate in others that are comparable with Adobe's requirements. 

 

If you object to how someone answers a questions here, there are a few things you need to understand.

Most of us that volunteer on these forums are not professionals in public relations or customer service.

We are from diverse countries with diversities including that with a culture of a blunt to the point way of answering questions and are not at liberty to stress over how to get in the heads of sensitive people to produce sensitive answers.

It is impossible to please hyper-sensitive people, hence it's easier to state the facts and move on.

What we should be looking for from these posts are the useful materials and stop stressing over trivialities. 

If you have a suggestion regarding how one could better handle the answer to a question, you may copy the offending answer and in a private message, paste the quote and give your suggestion. Fire cannot put out fire. At this point I do not know what post reply you're replying to, but I am quite sure @Abambo meant well.

You must follow the Adobe Contributor Guidelines and these tips to help you create better photos if you want to get your files accepted. Also, you'll benefit from these additional tips.  No matter the formal training you get, it's never complete. Experience will always add to your education, and that's an ongoing process that makes you more rounded when you are willing to accept new ideas, suggestions and requirements from multiple institutions, sources and people. This takes humility.

Best wishes

Jacquelin 

.....assaAuthor
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March 29, 2023
hi Jacqueline

Thank you for the answer but Abambo really abused his expert advice privileges here, and you did nothing, I didn't prolonged this conversation I tried to stop several times, and you did nothing again, I expect him to apologize for misinformation. They called me here everything what is possible, and you did nothing again. And now you are telling me about community guidelines. wow.
jacquelingphoto2017
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 29, 2023

Hi @.....assa,

As I said in the post above, I do not see the reply you speak of. You did not link it here. I have to respond to you, because I only see what you said. Also it is not in my place to chastise anyone on this forum, However, I would better understand the allegations if I see the the post. Without proof, you appear to be someone on a war path. When accusing someone of something you need to provide the proof. No one will approach @Abambo except we have a reason to.

 

Best wishes

Jacquelin

Inspiring
March 29, 2023

I don't understand anything about photography, I'd just like to say that the guy you quoted is pretty snobbish even with several here.

.....assaAuthor
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March 29, 2023

Well, I was called a lot of things here, honestly crazy. 

George_F
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March 29, 2023

And just again for clarity, Adobe does accept submissions from smart phones and Adobe Stock Contributors are welcome to submit them.  

 

Although some photos are accepted, smart phones are more prone to Quality Issue rejections in my experience and anyone posting a smart phone rejection on the forum is likely to get the advice to consider a dslr.  

 

Cheers!

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer
.....assaAuthor
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March 29, 2023

Well, guys were saying otherwise, and I can show you a few posts about this. I am not sure that you are really know which photos was taken by Camera which iPhone especially the last one, the discussion was about that the small size can not do the same what big one, Apparently can do.

Abambo
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March 30, 2023
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Well, guys were saying otherwise, and I can show you a few posts about this. 


By @.....assa

This is about Abambo if I'm correct and I'm saying that smartphone pictures are accepted, under the same quality standards as any other picture.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
George_F
Community Expert
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March 29, 2023

In this article, two night photos are compared and asked if one could tell the difference.  Yes, I could immediately tell which was which.

 

It should be noted that a majority of the photos in the article are taken with a dslr, and came from stock.

 

Smart phones are impressive these days.  But when it comes to Stock a dslr is still the better tool to use.

 

Happy shooting 🙂

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer
.....assaAuthor
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March 29, 2023

I can find you another one

 One of them suppose to be the link why I think Camera is still better that the smartphone but not because of the quality but because of better control to tell the story. 

 

 

RALPH_L
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 29, 2023

Master Degree in Fasion Photography. Congratulations.

The article that you sent doesnt really say much about "quality". If it did, do highly announced fashion photographers use there smartphone when shooting for clients? I dont think so. But I dont have a degree in photography.

I think it deals more with personal "snap shot" photography. 

.....assaAuthor
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March 29, 2023

Read it please,  it has at the end And actually is saying a lot about photography and compare different models of camera, I am also new to smartphone photography, but I know few people that are using both Smartphones and Cameras in their workflow. Technology really goes forward so quickly.

Henrik Heigl
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Henrik HeiglCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
March 29, 2023

Hi,

 

this is a support Community. Do you have any specific question regarding Stock Contributions? If you have a specific question about an answer, you always can DM People here.

Also, please stick to the netiquette and the Guidelines https://community.adobe.com/t5/using-the-community-discussions/adobe-support-community-guidelines/td-p/4788157 . Hope that helps.

 

regards,Henrik
.....assaAuthor
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March 29, 2023

Well. And I think also that this link will be great for everyone is old already from 2020, but it explains quite well, and this guy I respect for his knowledge and flexibility and openness to try new things,