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January 15, 2023
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Newbie Alert. Looking for a few lines of advice regarding Rotobrush two.

  • January 15, 2023
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Hello.

I'm just curious how an experienced editor would go about this. Perhaps such advice would help me avoid some rabbit holes.

First off my computer and software:

2017 iMac 27inch running Monterey. 32gb memory, 4gb vram 3.4ghz core i5 500gb SSD, 250gb outboard SSD for media cashe.

Premiere Pro 15.4.1 (simple wedding videos are what I've done in the past)

After Effects 18.1.0

My source video is unfortunate: 60fps screen recording. Varible rates detected. I'm in the process of trying to reduce it to 30fps and keep the audio in sync.

A girl is singing a song. Her talent is far outstripping her setting. I'm trying to get rid of the board behind her head. I've set Rotobrush to eliminate the board, not seperate her entire body from the frame.

You'll see below that I will have no choice but to help Rotobrush along frame by frame.

Any advice will help. Perhaps simple bullet points of the order of steps you would take to tackle this

Many thanks,

Scott

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz6vON2clc 

 

 

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Warren Heaton
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Community Expert
January 16, 2023

To transcode the source, try right-clicking in the Finder and choose Encode Selected Videos and choose ProRes when the options appear.

 

Use that inside of After Effects.

 

Back in After Effects, you want to paint the singer with the Roto Brush.  Some things that will make this challenging: one, the length of the clip that you are using the Roto Bush with; two, the blond hair over the gold board behind it; three, an older i5 processor (i5s will usually get the job done, but take a lot longer to do it).

 

You'll want to get the head and shoulders and then replace the background.  

 

After the Roto Brush pass, additional clean up may be needed with the Mask Tool or Mocha AE.

 

 

 

Known Participant
January 16, 2023
Thank you.

Perhaps concentrating on the board was a mistake. I figured it would be
simpler for the Rotobrush since the area was smaller and I'm looking for a
simple solid black background.

I had no clue about encoding it first.

The song will be broken up and interspersed with video montages. So I'll be
taking it one approximate 12 second sequence at a time.

Thanks again,
Scott

https://youtu.be/-Wz6vON2cLc
Community Expert
January 16, 2023

Trim your clip and create a comp from the trimmed clip. You just want the frames that are going to be in the final edit. You will want a separate comp for each shot.

 

Duplicate the footage layer, solo the top layer, and draw a mask around the top of the actor's head that just covers the background you want to remove, then pre-compose the top copy moving all attributes to the new comp;

Change to the Paint workspace, right-click on the Nested comp then select Open Layer, then apply Rotobrush. Let it propagate, then use the refine edge tool and let that propagate. Fine-tune the roto with the Effects Control Panel. As a final step Freeze the Rotobrush.

Return to the default workspace. Add a new black solid to the comp sampling the black background color. Use the nested comp (your pre-comp) as an Alpha Inverted track matte for the black layer. Turn on the bottom layer (original trimmed footage), then use the pen tool to create a mask on the black solid that just includes the background and you end up with something like this:

I hope you followed that. 

 

Masking and pre-composing cuts down the amount of work that Rotobrush needs to do. The Track Matte pokes a hole in the black layer to reveal the top part of the actor's head. 

 

If you are lost on any of the steps consult the User Guide. You always want to trim, mask, maybe color correct to improve edge detail and contrast between the subject and the background, then Pre-compose before using Rotobrush. Rotobrush should be the only effect applied to the Pre-comp. If the Rotobrush takes a long time, Pre-compose the Pre-comp again and move Rotobrush to the new nested comp, open the original Rotobrush comp and choose Composition/Pre-render to render the Rotobrushed comp and replace the nested comp with a High Quality With Alpha movie. Rotobrush is a resource hog and long pre-composed shots (or shots) that have Rotobrush applied can cause render problems and bloat your AEP project file size. If you spend more than 10 or 15 minutes running Rotobrush it is always a good idea to Pre-compose again, then render and replace the Rotobrush comp in the project. When the render is done you can delete the Rotobrush comp you rendered.

 

 

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January 15, 2023

The YouTube link is a dud. Cannot delete it.