Prevent Maxon Cinema 4D Force Install

Maxon supplies the 3D rendering engine. Would you like to see this go too? I use the C4D lite integration all the time. It is a very useful tool, more so than the Ray-Traced Rendering engine ever was. I've never seen so much complaining about free software that can help you deliver a better product. 

Please VOTE! Here: https://adobe-video.uservoice.com/forums/911311-after-effects/suggestions/40537858-opt-out-of-the-installation-of-cinema-4d-r21-when

Yeah, Warren, you're insane, please just get out of this discussion.

Yeap, TOS and EULA are not enforceable and are totally pointless, but unless someone can cough up the money and time to sue them we're out of luck.

To add to this, I am not opposed to C4D integration, but I am opposed to the standalone software being installed (which apparently is not required for the C4D integration to even work in the first place, so why is it even there?

Even though I know that C4D is, having it randomly appear in my computer is still worrying because I don't even know who installed it - I had to google this to find out adobe was installing it on my computer. This is an insane practice that can't be justified at all, if they decided to install other things, how will we be informed? What are our options?

I went to vote for the linked topic up top, but I'd be surprised if that goes anywhere anyway. This isn't about just C4D but adobe's practice as a whole. I don't trust them anymore. I used to just have problems with specific updates but this is a much bigger problem that I really struggle to ignore. My career is built on AE animation and premiere, but this is getting me to consider completely dropping the software and trying to figure something else out of nowhere now, even though there aren't any proper alternatives either.

Thanks for pointing it out. Just a link for voting convenience: Opt-out of the installation of Cinema 4D R21 when installing After Effects

My 2 cents:

C4D is third party software that I didn't ask for, is forced onto my pc and requires a separate license to fully function. That smells of some shady business deal that we've seen a lot of in the 90's. I am surprised that anyone can consider this anything other than bloatware because this is probably the very definition of it.

I'm a 2d animator, I don't need 3d software. And if I would consider going that route, I would probably go for Blender since that has improved significantly in the past few updates and is free. If Adobe would integrate Blender, it would be a different story, but I still think it would require a seperate installer.

I really do appreciate your effort with your community support, but since you're defending Adobe's choices here, you can also expect some arguments against it. I'd like to address some of your reasoning, because I think there are some misconceptions. Although you're right that plugins are third party software, you would probably agree that C4D is a different scale, since it is it's own seperate program and plugins included in AE are permanently fully licensed.

Another thing you seem to like to mention is that 'industry professionals asked for it'. This really bothers me because you are assuming 2 things: the first being that ALL professionals want this, the second being that they wanted it in this way. Yes it's a nice integration, but everyone would probably agree that C4D needs it's own seperate installer from the CC application. If Media Encoder has it, then C4D should definitely have it. On top of these assumptions, saying that 'professionals want it' also implies that I may not be a professional, since I don't want it. That's not very kind.

For professionals who use After Effects, this is much wanted integration.

In most cases, making something up in a support forum does nothing to help resolve an issue.

 Again, Adode user-voice is the the place to raise a concern about any component of Adobe software as well as anything integrated into Adobe software.

C4D does not appear in the CC Desktop app, can't install or uninstall it wher a user is supposed to manage his/her adobe apps. . Let me decide what I want to install, what I need for my work. I am keeping my workstation as clean as possible by only installing apps that I use so my pc runs as smooth as possible.

Adobe, please respect your costumers.