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October 15, 2018
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Creative Cloud update to 2019 now all apps Trial

  • October 15, 2018
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We have a 100 device license for Creative Cloud that does not expire until July 2019.  Today I updated to the latest versions of the apps which appear to be 2019 versions, and now all the apps say 'Start Trial' and if opened, prompt me that I have 7 days.

What the heck is going on?  I would contact Adobe Support directly but frankly I had to do that earlier this summer when they failed to update our account when we renewed and all the apps stopped working...and it took them about a month to fix it and then never even contacted me to tell me it was fixed - so no faith there.

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    Correct answer Jeffrey_A_Wright

    Thank you all for the feedback and patience.  For more information on how to utilize CC 2019 applications see Apps not available in Creative Cloud Packager | CC 2019

    39 replies

    Participant
    November 12, 2018

    I missed the webinar about the new shared license plans, on Wednesday.  Does anyone know what was announced or if there's a link to view the webinar?  I've tried searching for it to no avail.

    Inspiring
    November 12, 2018

    nothing was announced.  they didn't say anything regarding this except when we pressed them and all they did at that point was confirm what we already know (it doesn't work now and they are working on "solutions")

    matthewy42934344
    Participating Frequently
    November 6, 2018

    I agree Bradyrtech.... The point is very simple, Adobe changed the terms of the agreement on people who are already purchased. When you buy the device license holder user license Harvey agreement is upgrade assurance it always has been if that was being removed Adobe should have informed us at the time of renewal for the 1819 academic year.

    The fact that nobody knew about this including those I contacted add Adobe and my vendor and I didn’t even know there was a change until posting the original question here is what is upsetting and insulting.

    with all due respect Jeff it is not Simply a case of us wishing to keep using something that we can’t, it’s a case of we should be able to use this because this is what we paid for!

    matthewy42934344
    Participating Frequently
    November 6, 2018

    Whilst I completely understand, I really do not think that as a company Adobe understand the issue.

    We spent thousands of dollars in the summer renewing our device licenses. The first time that I found out the device licenses were not supported in the latest version of the program was when I posted the initial question here.  Our vendor knew nothing at the time of renewal and new nothing when this issue occurred, and all the literature from Adobe at the time of renewal mentioned nothing about this change either.

    When we renewed, the expectation was that the software upgrade was part of that renewal cost as it had always been.

    This is not simply a case of we want to keep using a product that we no longer can, this is a case of Adobe changing our product with zero communication with its customers at the time of renewal. 

    I’m sorry, but that is simply completely unacceptable and incredibly poor business management and business practice.

    We paid in good faith based on an agreement that Adobe has changed and it is Frankly upsetting that the gravitas of this situation seems to fail to have gone through and all we get is well with sorry but you can’t do that

    matthewy42934344
    Participating Frequently
    November 6, 2018

    Yep they still don’t get it do they, so they’re trying to force you to go to use the licensing one way or another.

    In our case each user logs in to the lab machines as their own user account so every user will have to login rather than having a generic lab user which could then save the credentials so you either have to create a generic credential that anybody uses but therefore anybody has to know the password and could change it, or as you say every single user still has to have an Adobe ID.

    If they wanted to try to push people away from using Adobe  Products in education than messing everybody about the way that they are is definitely the correct way to do it  

    bradyrtech
    Participating Frequently
    November 6, 2018

    bottom line is we need device licenses to be tied to a device.   not a device + [unique] adobe ID.  period, end of story.

    1 device license tied to 1 device.   makes it easy to track, revoke or re-issue.  if it winds up being tied to device+unique adobe ID, that will be a total pain to administer.

    Jeffrey_A_Wright
    Legend
    November 6, 2018

    We appreciate everyone's enthusiasm in the wish to use the recently released CC 2019 versions of the Creative Cloud applications.  As previously discussed device licensing is not available for CC 2019 applications.  Please bookmark Apps not available in Creative Cloud Packager | CC 2019 for any updates that may be announced.  You can continue to use the previous versions of the Creative Cloud applications in your restricted or Lab environments.

    I would also ask that you continue to work with your local Adobe reseller or Creative Cloud plan administrator.  Maintaining this communication will allow you to be kept up to date, as new solutions are announced and made available.

    Inspiring
    November 6, 2018

    I received the following response from our reseller, which was sent to them from Adobe, when I questioned what was going on.

    "The 2019 apps are not yet available for device licenses. In early 2019 we will introduce shared device licenses which will included 2019 apps. They will be able to migrate their current licenses to the shared device at no cost at that time or at a time that’s most convenient for them. The shared device licenses will still be licensed per device but users will need to be assigned an ID and log in to access the device. We have some webinars scheduled in early December to go over the change. Additionally, we will be providing customer facing documents on the process in the upcoming weeks."

    This is still unacceptable.  It's better in the sense that they are now saying we won't lose the rights to the latest software, but to require accounts for 1000, 5000, 10000+ kids when only fractions of them will use software installed in a handful of locations is absolutely absurd.

    bradyrtech
    Participating Frequently
    November 6, 2018

    i'd see if you could get away with just using a single generic adobe ID for the lab.  that should be all that is required with device licenses.  instructors or technicians can have their own adobe ID for testing purposes/whatever, but for the lab itself, a single generic login should be fine. 

    Adobe just needs to give us all a break here.  first it's "nope" for device licenses.  change to per user (create a ton of adobe ID's)..  now they're saying device license "ok" but still create a ton of adobe ID's. 

    it's as if they need to bolster their numbers of adobe ID's so they can continue trying to spam / upsell stuff to individual users/students.

    Participant
    October 24, 2018

    We also have 100 device licences in our High School, we have to pay for 100 even thought we only need about 60. Fortunately I installer 2019 only on a trial machine. So here's what i don't get, Autodesk gives us the their software for FREE and Adobe in their wisdom is forcing us to use last years version. With the runaround we're getting, tight budgets, cutbacks, etc, my Supervisor is already talking about going back to CS6. Adobe Please get this rectified sooner rather than later.

    Participant
    October 23, 2018

    I'm having the exact same issue.  I need this is resolved ASAP

    carlsunder01
    Participating Frequently
    October 22, 2018

    I just got off the phone with our Adobe rep at CDW.  They confirmed that at this time the CC2019 license for our devices is not available.  HOWEVER...  They DID tell me that it will be coming.  No confirmation on a date. I asked it several times and in several different ways to ensure that we were talking the same language...  Our device-licensed based devices WILL be able to run the CC2019 apps...  Just not at this time.  This seems to be in line with one of the official Staff responses above from Jeff A Wright​ stating "...for steps you can take until device licensing for CC 2019 applications are available."

    I'm wanting to believe them, but it's concerning when the first official response in the thread above is technically saying the opposite (that CC2019 does not support device based licenses). If the Adobe rep at CDW AND the answer above from Jeff are correct, then Dominic Watkins​ answer above should be amended to say that support WILL be coming rather than freaking us all out thinking device licensing is done.

    Jeffrey_A_Wright
    Jeffrey_A_WrightCorrect answer
    Legend
    October 22, 2018

    Thank you all for the feedback and patience.  For more information on how to utilize CC 2019 applications see Apps not available in Creative Cloud Packager | CC 2019

    Jpw48
    Participating Frequently
    November 6, 2018

    Hi Jeff,

    It's been two weeks since the last update from Adobe in this thread.  Are we any further along with knowing the timescale for this please?

    My renewal is due next Monday (12th) and I'd very much like to be able to commit several thousand pounds in order to keep using this software (in particular the 2019 versions) but am hesitant to do that until I hear some definitive statement and timescale about when we'll be able to migrate to the shared device license.

    Can you please offer an update before my renewal date, as we don't have the money to take a gamble on this.

    Many thanks,

    Jacob

    Participant
    October 18, 2018

    You say to downgrade back to 2018, but that does not appear to be an available option. Nothing from 2018 is in the list of apps for me to download. An option to download older versions from the archive is apparently supposed to be in the "Manage" flyout, but "Uninstall" is the only option there.

    Jpw48
    Participating Frequently
    October 18, 2018

    I have an update from Adobe technical support, which makes it very much sound like it's our fault for not checking all of their technical documentation before renewing our subscription each year.  Almost makes it sound like getting the 2018 versions was a "gift" and that we'll be lucky again if we get the 2019 ones.

    I really feel like their communication around this has been appalling, especially if this was a change that they introduced before the 2018 versions came out!!

    Hi Jacob,

    This is in regards of the device licensing issue.

    I would like to share a document with you where it is mentioned that the latest version the device license user should get is 2017.

    However, we tried and provided our users with the 2018 versions.

    Please find the document below:

    https://helpx.adobe.com/enterprise/using/manage-device-licenses.html

    In the same way we are positive about providing the 2019 version as well to our users.

    However, we do not have a time frame of that implementation.

    If there will be any changes like that in the device licensing then you will definitely be get notified about the same.

    Thanks

    Sugandha Sharma

    Adobe Support

    bradyrtech
    Participating Frequently
    October 18, 2018

    Jacob, I dont see anywhere on that link where Adobe says that you cannot use device licenses with CC 2019.  only that they are migrating away from the creative cloud packager, and that for CC 2019 we have to use a new web-based method to create packages.

    obviously device based licensing is broke in CC 2019 (as everyone in this thread is seeing updating to CC 2019 breaks the license and forces students/clients/computers into trial mode).

    Hopefully Adobe will bugfix this issue ASAP as i'm willing to bet that a lot of the educational / VIP resellers are still selling device licenses to customers and how is a new customer supposed to know to *not* update to CC 2019, and what reseller would shoot themselves in the foot by saying that a new customer will be stuck buying old software?