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_Lains_Giles_
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May 16, 2006
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The printer called...some fonts are not embedded. Help!

  • May 16, 2006
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She said if I go into the .pdf and select File > Document Properties, and then select Fonts, I can change this.

Well, I see each of the fonts there, and I see which ones do not have the Embedded label, but how do I go about fixing them to embed them?

Will this require me to do something in Frame first and then create a new .pdf, or can I do it in Acrobat? Do I need to go into the maker.ini file and modify something?

I knew I didn't want to relax too much...something always comes up and the last minute. It's Murphy's Law!

Thanks in advance!

Laini
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    Maria33913719lsb1
    Participant
    November 28, 2023

    This worked for me! Thanks! The printer is an industrial printer at work

     

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    _david1
    Known Participant
    June 19, 2006
    Actually, stone tablet *are* the best archive format!
    We're still able to read ones from about 3000BC.
    If there's any current computer media still readibly in 5000 years time, I'll be pleasantly surprised!
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    _sherman_watstein_
    Participating Frequently
    June 15, 2006
    There is always the chisle mode! Don't knock the clay tablets, at least it a hard copy.
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    _david1
    Known Participant
    June 15, 2006
    >>For those that don't use XP but use Windows NT or Windows 2000, ATM is recommend to publish hard copy or to generate a PDF using type1 fonts.

    What about people still using Windows 3.1? And clay tablets?
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    _sherman_watstein_
    Participating Frequently
    June 14, 2006
    Ken- Not sure where you got your info, but Windows 2000 does not have ATM build in, only the ATM font driver. Here is what Adobe says:

    Note that Windows 2000 Professional ships with the ATM font driver, which runs in the background to display PostScript fonts. On other Windows platforms, you install the font driver (and the other ATM component, the font manager (also known as the control panel)) when you install ATM. In Windows 2000 Professional, uninstalling ATM removes only the font manager, not the font driver.

    Type 1 font is an outline font that is designed to work with PostScript printers. The outlines can be scaled and rotated. With OpenType technology, Windows fully supports Type 1 fonts.

    David- Maybe you don't read what you write, but some of us that write documentation for a living do.
    Large companies keep documentation for both legal reasons and because their documents are still being used and updated.
    In the company I work for, there are some 10K active documents stored. Like everything else, changes do happen, and there is always a chance that one or more of these documents may have to be updated.
    For those that don't use XP but use Windows NT or Windows 2000, ATM is recommend to publish hard copy or to generate a PDF using type1 fonts.
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    _Kenneth_Benson_
    Participating Frequently
    June 14, 2006
    > Windows 2000 does not have ATM build in, only the ATM font driver.


    Functionally, what difference do you see between ATM and the ATM font
    driver? On PC operating systems before Windows 2000, you had to install ATM
    in order to be able to install and use Type 1 fonts. On Windows 2000 and XP,
    Type 1 font support is built-in (your ATM font driver), and Type 1 fonts are
    installed through the Windows Control Panel, the same way as Truetype fonts.

    Either way, you *do not* need to install ATM for Windows 2000 or XP. Both
    W2K and XP handle fonts the same way.


    > With OpenType technology, Windows fully supports Type 1 fonts.


    Not sure what this means, except that W2K and XP support Opentype and Type 1
    fonts (as well as Type 1 Opentype fonts).


    > For those that don't use XP but use Windows NT or Windows 2000, ATM is
    recommend to publish hard copy or to generate a PDF using type1 fonts.


    Recommended by who? Yes, if you're on NT, then ATM is not just recommended
    but necessary. But if you're on W2K or XP, *you don't need it*.

    Ken Benson
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    _david1
    Known Participant
    June 13, 2006
    Yeah, I should have rephrased that to "hardly anyone NEEDS to use ATM on Windows these days."
    Whether or not they realise this is a different matter. Just because people write documentation for a living, doesn't mean they read it ;-)
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    _sherman_watstein_
    Participating Frequently
    June 9, 2006
    David- I have to disagree when you say "hardly anyone's going to be using Adobe Type Manager on Windows these days though, are they? PostScript Type1 fonts have been supported natively since Win2000."

    Have you paid close attention to what printer you are using? If you are not using a postscript printer or Acrobat PDF with FrameMaker, then you are not able check off "generate Acrobat data" in in the print document dialog box. Maybe you don't need PDFs for your customer and bookmarks. Yes this option is not needed for commercial printing, but many of us have Type1 fonts and countless documents we have done over the years that use these fonts and are still being maintained. The light version of ATM is free from Adobe for those that didn't buy it, it works.
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    _Kenneth_Benson_
    Participating Frequently
    June 9, 2006
    > but many of us have Type1 fonts and countless documents we have done over
    the years that use these fonts and are still being maintained. The light
    version of ATM is free from Adobe for those that didn't buy it, it works.


    ATM works. But so does not having ATM. There are only two reasons to put ATM
    on your computer:

    1) You want support for Multiple Master fonts
    2) You're on Windows ME or 98 or something earlier

    If you're on Windows 2000 or XP, you've already got ATM built into the OS,
    so, yes, hardly anyone's going to be using ATM these days, and most of the
    people that are using it don't realize they don't need it.

    Ken Benson
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    _Lains_Giles_Author
    Participating Frequently
    May 19, 2006
    It worked! It worked!

    Arnis, I can't tell you what a huge help this was! I owe you many beers (or the poison of your choice!)

    Thanks again!
    L.
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    _Lains_Giles_Author
    Participating Frequently
    May 19, 2006
    Aha. I see what you mean. Just about all of them (other than Frutiger and Caslon) all have .ttf extensions. So I will try your steps.

    I definitely have issues with the print shop, but that's another matter entirely, and due to possible nepotism between companies, may be something I can't do anything about. But I definitely plan on negotiating and checking the pdfs elsewhere. The owner of the company insisted I be in Dallas to be near the support function, but all the engineers are in California, and so is the printer. English is not their first language, and it is definitely frustrating!

    Laini
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    Art Campbell
    Inspiring
    May 18, 2006
    Laini,

    At some point, it'd be worth your time to ask a friend / different printer / quick copy shop to try to open and print from your .pdfs.

    Just as a reality check.

    Art
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