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Roger Breton
Brainiac
August 31, 2023
Question

How to convert one shape into another?

  • August 31, 2023
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In InDesign, there is a friendly command to convert many regular shapes into one another but not so in Illustrator? Suppose, for example, I draw a circle with the Ellipse tool but then I need to draw a polyon that has the exact "size" as the circle? In French, we say "une forme INSCRITE" like "un hexagone inscrit", meaning one shape fitted into another. We used to do this with compass on paper in high school technical drawing classes...

 

I know the Effect command to convert Rectangles and Ellipses but that's not very useful...

Been scratching my head for a while. I manage but you would think Illustrator would make such conversion trivial by now...

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Jacob Bugge
Community Expert
August 31, 2023

Roger,

 

As I (mis)understand it, it is quite easy to obtain the desired creation and positioning of the inscribed regular polygons and stars.

 

You can, Smart Guides/double Aligning being your friends:

 

1) Create the circle;

2) Create a regular polygon or star with a radius equalling half the W(idth)/H(eight) of the circle;

3A) For any regular polygon or star ClickDrag the polygon/star choose the Anchor Point of an (outer) point that corresponds to one of the 4 Anchor Points of the circle, and ClickDrag the polygon/star by that to snap to the corresponding Anchor Point of the circle;

3B) As an alternative for a regular polygon or star with an even number of (outer) points, Select both the regular polygon/star and the circle, then use Center Align both vertically and horizontally with the circle as key object.

 

The image below shows the outcome for a hexagon, a pentagon and a star with 5 points; the hexagon was made with 3B) but could just as well have been made with 3A using either side Anchor Point of the circle; the pentagon was made with 3A) using the top Anchor Point of the circle; the star with 5 points was made with 3A) using the bottom Anchor Point of the circle; in all cases Round Joins are used to avoid Miter Joins sticking out so the exact fits are obvious.

 

Roger Breton
Brainiac
September 1, 2023

Using the "radius equalling half the W(idth)/H(eight) of the circle" is a smart geometry fallback BUT it falls short of a "one button" conversion 😞     Have a heart, Mr Illustrator!!

Jacob Bugge
Community Expert
September 1, 2023

Indeed, Roger.

 

Monika Gause
Community Expert
August 31, 2023

That conversion feature in InDesign is dangerous.

https://youtu.be/wGxyYdkjfOQ 

 

Roger Breton
Brainiac
August 31, 2023

Thank you for your reply, dear Monika. I'll keep an eye out for "converting a shape into a star" in InDesign!
But, as far as InDesign is concerned, I would be ready to bet big bucks that a conversion from one "basic" shape like a rectangle to another "basic" shape like a cercle or vice-versa, ot a circle to a polyone WITHOUT points like a star, is so straightforward, geometrically, that I would trust InDesign's engineers code blindfolded...

Monika Gause
Community Expert
August 31, 2023

Polygon has the same issues as a star.

 

Kurt Gold
Community Expert
August 31, 2023

Are you talking about something like this?

 

 

Or something like this?

 

 

Or something else?

 

Roger Breton
Brainiac
August 31, 2023

Top one.

Kurt Gold
Community Expert
August 31, 2023

Really top one?

 

Just asking as InDesign works like bottom one.

 

Roger Breton
Brainiac
August 31, 2023

I just drew a Triangle by clicking on the "center" of the circle and drawing outward, with the Smart Guides active, it eventually intersects with the circle and that gives me all the precision needed BUT it should be a simple "one-click" command somewhere,,, Think of my poor students learning Illustrator for the first time... 

Ares Hovhannesyan
Community Expert
August 31, 2023

Did you try to change poligon property in property panels? 

Roger Breton
Brainiac
August 31, 2023

Yes, that's trivial but the Properties panel does not offer any way to convert a "circle" into a "polygon"? See? Thanks for offering your help 🙂